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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:28 pm |
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Joined: Apr 30, 2010 Posts: 275
Trade Rating: +2
Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTi
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Before spending loads of money on stuff like dampers and springs get the basics sorted. The 206 is a great handling car from standard so first get yourself a decent set of tyres. The same ones all round. Ensure they are inflated to the correct pressure. get your tracking done. get your rear beam checked for wear in the stub axles for the trailing arms. check there are no worn components like top mounts or track rod ends. check all your dampers are working correctly
If all these are done you will have a far better handling and safer car than throwing away money on aftermarket stuff.
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:52 pm |
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Joined: Mar 29, 2010 Posts: 3977
Trade Rating: +15
Location: Halifax
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Dave wrote: |
Rob2859 wrote: |
coil overs would be a cheaper option while still providing a decent improvment |
Speaking from Experience? Which ones have you got?
I found a friends 206 on coilovers was a horrible drive. |
I don't have any. My mate has some on his corsa which make a big difference. although it is a corsa.
Would have thought coilovers would make an improvment on a 206. like he said he was on a small budjet so they could be an option. Although I am aware uprated springs and shocks are a much better setup than coilies.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:22 am |
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Joined: Feb 21, 2010 Posts: 3945
Trade Rating: +45
Location: basingstoke
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get it lowerd bt not 2 much as tht cn make it handle like a boat, beter tyres gti 180 arb there quite a few things realy
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| PAST -2008 Vauxhall Astra VXR / 2002 pug 206 GTI
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:44 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 3617
Trade Rating: +9
Location: Under your bed
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DJ-XS wrote: |
Does it really handle badly? My standard XS handles brilliantly, easy to chuck into corners and it sticks!
Do you have aftermarket alloys? |
The difference between most standard and modified cars with properly done handling upgrades is massive, you probably won't know it until you try it.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:50 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 5574
Trade Rating: +11
Location: UK
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Oh I understand what you and Dave are saying but the OP makes it sounds like its horrible standard, which im puzzled at as I dont find it bad enough that makes me want to upgrade any parts.
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:54 am |
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Joined: Aug 07, 2010 Posts: 247
Trade Rating: +1
Location: Ash, Surrey
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Lower it sensibly (my personal preference for ride quality is only 30mm front, 20-25mm rear, plus on anything that isn't a Gti I don't see the point in making it look overly showy)
And get some wide tyres. I can't tell whether my 195's or current 205's are better... but either way both are farrr better then riding on the diddy lil 14" wheels! The difference in grip is like a dream when you give her a good pumpin'
Also, don't bother with overly expensive stuff unless you have a car that needs it. I've been riding on Gmax sus all round for nearly two years now and haven't been able to fault it once. The ride quality will be improved significantly by just dropping it a little bit and getting wider tyres. I know what its like to be on a budget!
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:11 pm |
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Joined: Aug 27, 2010 Posts: 35
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Tenby, Pembrokeshire
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DJ-XS wrote: |
the OP makes it sounds like its horrible standard, which im puzzled at as I dont find it bad enough that makes me want to upgrade any parts. |
It goes where I want it too, it just sways really badly especially at speed. Like going round a round about its just ridiculous! The second you begin to turn the whole car leans massively to the outer edge of the corner, the suspension just seems way too soft!!
So unlike you I see every reason to upgrade the way this car handles..
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:16 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 10151
Trade Rating: +12
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check my for sale thread, my old koni sports dampers are still avalible
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:17 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3978
Trade Rating: +8
Location: Leeds / West Midlands
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lower it on springs and shocks like dave said, will look better and be a lot stiffer so you won't get the body roll that you don't like
i have coilovers myself but everyone seems against them! I love the hard ride (not on bumps obviously) and i'm a bit anal about my car so tweaking it up and down until its perfect is good for me
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:04 pm |
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Joined: Aug 27, 2010 Posts: 35
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Tenby, Pembrokeshire
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| Just passed my driving test, just bought a 206 !! | |
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:35 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 892
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Birmingham
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It is a harder ride than the bilstein/eibach set up. PM Ape as he used to run this iirc on his 206
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 12:58 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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Ape was too tight fisted to put Bilsteins on his car.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:40 am |
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Joined: Aug 27, 2010 Posts: 35
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Tenby, Pembrokeshire
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Thats what I'm after really, I fancy quite a stiff set up. Ride comfort isn't as important as preformance I guess
I'll PM Ape now, as anybody else used these? Are they prone to breaking or are they reliable??
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| Just passed my driving test, just bought a 206 !! | |
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:58 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3085
Trade Rating: +12
Location: Essex
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I can do you Vmaxx coilovers for £260 delivered.... had some good feedback about them... Meady on here has a set
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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:00 am |
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Joined: Aug 27, 2010 Posts: 35
Trade Rating: 0
Location: Tenby, Pembrokeshire
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Whats the advantage/disadvantage of coilovers compared to a shock and spring set up?
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| Just passed my driving test, just bought a 206 !! | |
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