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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:33 am |
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Joined: Feb 04, 2010 Posts: 1409
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Location: Clipping the Apex!
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Seb wrote: |
Could have chosen better pads than that! |
Yup
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:52 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Ape wrote: |
Seb wrote: |
Could have chosen better pads than that! |
Yup |
Well i could technically change the order to yellow stuff
As the complete set to me is £64 for red and £69 for yellow (front + rear), which aint bad (got to love massive discount)
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:00 am |
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Joined: Feb 04, 2010 Posts: 1409
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Location: Clipping the Apex!
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After going to Ferodo from EBC, I'd never go back.
Forget the Redstuff, Yellowstuff, Bluestuff.
If it's going for Fast Road use and Heavy Track use, then DS3000's are the pad you want. They eat discs, but they'll withstand 2, 8min 50secs, 12.9mile laps of the Nurburgring without fading, along with numerous laps around Silverstone, Castle Coombe etc etc.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:51 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Might be an upgrade for when i get better front calipers
As the GTi calipers wont stay for life, but they will do
Ideas on price wise?
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:02 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 3617
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Honestly, if it's being stripped, the GTi front and rear brakes are way more than up to it, the common misconception is that the bigger the better, when a decent disc and pad (for instance a carbon lorraine 5+) will often perform better than a 'big brake' kit with terrible pads.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:14 pm |
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Joined: Sep 20, 2011 Posts: 74
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Location: Milton Keynes
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Abzynthe wrote: |
Dabamash wrote: |
Addaz wrote: |
Dabamash wrote: |
Addaz wrote: |
Oh Fooook yeh
Its standard
The fog is chrome, with a chrome bulb that flashes red |
Yeah, that's illegal. You could probably get away with it outside of an MOT though
Although, my indicators are silvertec, so I may be wrong |
Hows it illegal? If it flashes red tit |
Legally, you have to have a red tinted bulb, a clear bulb that flashes red won't be allowed at MOT. Not sure on silvertec though, since my indicators passed under clear glass |
Just thought id share that I have a clear rear fog, with a clear LED bulb that is red when turned on. I passed my MOT |
it doesnt matter about the colour of the lense or bulb! aslong as red light it emitted from the rear it will pass. so clear lense and red bulb=pass, clear bulb and red lense=pass, clear lense and led's=pass aslong as red light is emitted!
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:08 am |
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Joined: Feb 04, 2010 Posts: 1409
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Location: Clipping the Apex!
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Seb wrote: |
Honestly, if it's being stripped, the GTi front and rear brakes are way more than up to it, the common misconception is that the bigger the better, when a decent disc and pad (for instance a carbon lorraine 5+) will often perform better than a 'big brake' kit with terrible pads. |
This.
I pay about £130 +VAT for DS3000 (Brembo Fitment for 330mm disc iirc)
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:23 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Seb wrote: |
Honestly, if it's being stripped, the GTi front and rear brakes are way more than up to it, the common misconception is that the bigger the better, when a decent disc and pad (for instance a carbon lorraine 5+) will often perform better than a 'big brake' kit with terrible pads. |
But a better brake setup with better pads will out perform a standard set of calipers
I know that they will be substantial for the time being, but with the added weight of a V6 i would prefer a slightly bigger surface area covered on a slightly larger disc
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:54 am |
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In that case, a decent set of 4pots, on a reasonable size disc (i.e so you can still get 15's / 16's on, which keeps the weight of the wheels and brakes down too), is better than going for a single piston caliper with bigger dinner plates.
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:31 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 3617
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Addaz wrote: |
But a better brake setup with better pads will out perform a standard set of calipers
I know that they will be substantial for the time being, but with the added weight of a V6 i would prefer a slightly bigger surface area covered on a slightly larger disc |
With a standard setup you will have the same 'stopping force' with good discs and pads as you will with the biggest brakes you can find, because when you actually get good discs and pads, the next link is how good the tyres are, and there is a limit to that...
If you stamp your foot to the floor, and the wheels lock up, then just before that is your best braking force.
The test will come with how long the standard brakes can cope with the heat produced, which with a decent setup and some fresh fluid, should be quite a while.
I wouldn't suggest throwing on massive brakes at the front just because you've been told it's the best thing to do, it may seriously throw the balance of the car off. Better to experiment with the standard setup first to find the best ratio of front to rear braking force. If you're finding the front is locking up before the rear, put harsher pads on the rear, for instance.
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:23 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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Location: Suffolk
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Thanks for the advice bud
But i will be replacing the lines with stainless, brake bias valve and filling with dot 5.1, to have adjustment and a slightly better boiling point
The tyres im unsure what go with, as im yet to have a set of wheels
Being a track day i wont be out for long, so fading wont occur (hopefully) but if i need to replace them every 4 events or so. So be it, they are cheap as bud
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
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144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
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For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:34 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3085
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Location: Essex
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toyo poxy...... decent pads on decent quality discs, if you can lock the brakes you dont need to upgrade. If you wanted to go for Brembo conversion and 180 discs then you will need to consider the idea of over-braking.... the bias valve will help you spread the load a little. Get a little more effort on the rear will help you in general. "lift off oversteer".... a lovely animal with rear bias
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:42 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3948
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Location: A Track near you ;)
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He needs to learn how to drive first guys
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 4:37 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 3617
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If you're not bothered about price, v70a... they are honestly better than R888s or A048s
If money is a concern, KU39's are an amazing track tyre for being a standard asymmetric off the shelf one.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:23 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 7093
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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