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 Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:21 pm |
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Joined: Sep 16, 2011
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Location: Devon UK
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Don't know if there is a specific area to talk about fuel economy, but I just thought I would share my latest result.
Filled up today (2nd time since I got the car) and a quick calc (mine doesn't have a trip computer) shows its doing just over 43MPG and that was normalish driving, bearing in mind I have only had it a couple of weeks so bin seeing what it can do as well, so I was quite pleased. Is this about right for a 1.4 8V?
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:24 pm |
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Joined: Mar 03, 2010
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Location: Black Country Ay I
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I made a thread on this a couple of weeks ago and got my balls burnt for asking it after it had been covered before
www.206info.co.uk/Foru...36571.html
Fuelly is a good website to use to track your progress  just make a note of your mileage reading on the petrol receipt and use brim to brim fill ups
Your MPG figure seems very good, do you do a lot of continuous speed driving? My average figures recently are heading towards 36mpg but that is a fair bit of stop start driving
edit: mine is also a 1.4 8v
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:34 pm |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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I found a great piece of software called MOTO ASSISTANT. Basically same as above, you enter mileage, fuel price and how much you put in and it tells you your running costs. You can also enter your service bills and other bits and pieces like MOT and insurance.
It told me that the car is costing 24p per mile to run. Great for when I'm deciding what to charge the kids for pointless journeys.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:16 pm |
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Joined: Jan 05, 2011
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Location: Wiltshire
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you recon i could use this as a way of charging my boss for delivering pizza instead of the 80p per drop i currently get, as on a 10 mile round trip journey that would be £1.25 not 80p which is a more realistic figure.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:46 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Moscow
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80p a drop? f*** that. Cost if Fuel, wage and then wear and tear on engine, tyres and other components?
I used to get 40p a mile on business expense at the Uni.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:27 am |
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Joined: Sep 16, 2011
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Location: Devon UK
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Thanks for the feed back, yes I see now that the topic has come up before.
The driving I have been doing lately is a mixture of ordinary A roads, some dual carrigeway and back roads of which there are a lot of round where I live. So quite a good mix of roads. The way I work it out is fill up till the pump cuts out then zero the trip, then next time I fill up do the same thing wait till the pump cuts out, then take a note of the millage on the trip and zero it again. When I get home, I divide the amount litres put in by 4.546 to get it into gallons, then divide the miles recorded by this figure which gives you your average MPG. Sorry if this sounds a bit obvious to some but the software must do something similar? I will continue to monitor it as the longer you do it the more accurate the average will be.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:09 am |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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| ghosty wrote: |
| you recon i could use this as a way of charging my boss for delivering pizza instead of the 80p per drop i currently get, as on a 10 mile round trip journey that would be £1.25 not 80p which is a more realistic figure. |
80p a drop wouldn't even cover your class 3 business use insurance, I don't even think £1.25 would come close when you add fuel and other running costs into it.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:13 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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| macca1411 wrote: |
| ghosty wrote: |
| you recon i could use this as a way of charging my boss for delivering pizza instead of the 80p per drop i currently get, as on a 10 mile round trip journey that would be £1.25 not 80p which is a more realistic figure. |
80p a drop wouldn't even cover your class 3 business use insurance, I don't even think £1.25 would come close when you add fuel and other running costs into it. |
That was meant to be my first point. 
What is the going rate to add business insurance? I've always wondered, as I doubt all the chavvy retards around here delivering in their crappy modified 1.1 corsas, micras and punto's have it.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:56 am |
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| tomd0801754 wrote: |
| macca1411 wrote: |
| ghosty wrote: |
| you recon i could use this as a way of charging my boss for delivering pizza instead of the 80p per drop i currently get, as on a 10 mile round trip journey that would be £1.25 not 80p which is a more realistic figure. |
80p a drop wouldn't even cover your class 3 business use insurance, I don't even think £1.25 would come close when you add fuel and other running costs into it. |
That was meant to be my first point.
What is the going rate to add business insurance? I've always wondered, as I doubt all the chavvy retards around here delivering in their crappy modified 1.1 corsas, micras and punto's have it. |
It would depend on circumstances, like how many drops per night, how many nights, average distance etc. The good thing is the takeaways could also be prosecuted under use, cause and permit laws if the driver didn't have the appropriate insurance.
I (although I claimed it back on expenses) used to pay about £150 a year as I was going to various depots doing training, so had a company laptop and projector in the car.
There are a lot of people who could be caught out with insurance if they only went for SDP and they drive to work or to the train station to park while they go to work, even if you have SDP + commuting, this normally only covers you for a single place of work. So in your case, if you were supply teaching, it wouldn't cover you.
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:55 am |
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Joined: Jan 05, 2011
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Location: Wiltshire
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| macca1411 wrote: |
| tomd0801754 wrote: |
| macca1411 wrote: |
| ghosty wrote: |
| you recon i could use this as a way of charging my boss for delivering pizza instead of the 80p per drop i currently get, as on a 10 mile round trip journey that would be £1.25 not 80p which is a more realistic figure. |
80p a drop wouldn't even cover your class 3 business use insurance, I don't even think £1.25 would come close when you add fuel and other running costs into it. |
That was meant to be my first point.
What is the going rate to add business insurance? I've always wondered, as I doubt all the chavvy retards around here delivering in their crappy modified 1.1 corsas, micras and punto's have it. |
It would depend on circumstances, like how many drops per night, how many nights, average distance etc. The good thing is the takeaways could also be prosecuted under use, cause and permit laws if the driver didn't have the appropriate insurance.
I (although I claimed it back on expenses) used to pay about £150 a year as I was going to various depots doing training, so had a company laptop and projector in the car.
There are a lot of people who could be caught out with insurance if they only went for SDP and they drive to work or to the train station to park while they go to work, even if you have SDP + commuting, this normally only covers you for a single place of work. So in your case, if you were supply teaching, it wouldn't cover you. |
lol, the company i work for covers me while im at work, i have sdp + comuting so im covered in all cases, you will find that most fast food/delivery companys have business cover to cover there drivers in no matter what car they drive, be it a chaved up corsa or a 150k lambo (yes my boss has been known to deliver pizza in his, f**ktard). as for milage i work various shift patterns and spend about £15 of petrol for a short shift (4-6 hours) and about £25-£30 for a long shift (12 hours) with me taking home an adverage of around £12 (short shift) and £20-£25 (long shift), so as you can see im not actually covering the petrol i use, this is due to a number of factors, if you get several deliveries all in the 10 mile (round trip) area one after another, for 80p its stupid. but then there are times, when you do a 3mile rond trip and you do 3 deliveries at once, so you get £2.40 for essencially an 80p drop. i think the problem we have is our boss is a d**k and doesnt know the area, so we cant just say oh that goes with that etc, and we lose out because of it. the other issue is he would rather send out 3 to the same area, than say 2 and then another with someone going past that area on a longer drop, which would not be so bad as you would then be getting an extra 80p for only going a little out of ya way.
yess i have voiced these concerns and there is nothing going to be done about it as they cant give based on milage due to the fact that people might take the p**s and do a few extra here and there, unless its a set recorded milage, it this drop is 10 miles, that drop it 5 ect.
back to econemy, i actually worked out once my EJ2 was getting 62.5mpg
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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 9:03 pm |
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Joined: Aug 15, 2011
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Location: Norfolk
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I have 1.4 8v and regularly get 43mpg,thats mixed driving, some town stuff and some dual carriageway. Nowadays I'm quite happy to do 60mph on dual carriageway.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:30 am |
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Joined: Sep 16, 2011
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Location: Devon UK
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| chopsim1 wrote: |
| I have 1.4 8v and regularly get 43mpg,thats mixed driving, some town stuff and some dual carriageway. Nowadays I'm quite happy to do 60mph on dual carriageway. |
I,m glad someone else is getting similar results to me, I was begining to think I had got it wrong or is it that most others on here have a heavy right foot!
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:38 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Moscow
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Macca - I don't do supply 
Ghosty - you go to work for 12 hours and come home with no money? Wth is the point? I go to work for 12 hours and come home with 76squid profit...
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:06 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010
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Location: What's it to you? ? ?
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| ghosty wrote: |
| you recon i could use this as a way of charging my boss for delivering pizza instead of the 80p per drop i currently get, as on a 10 mile round trip journey that would be £1.25 not 80p which is a more realistic figure. |
Tell him to get f****d & provide you with a company vehicle & fuel card else he can find some other mug as he is taking the p**s out of you & your just bending over & taking it!
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:45 am |
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| tomd0801754 wrote: |
Macca - I don't do supply
Ghosty - you go to work for 12 hours and come home with no money? Wth is the point? I go to work for 12 hours and come home with 76squid profit... |
currently not working (rear ended while i was at work) and im getting full pay £310 a week, current estimate for loss of earnings is £4500ish. but then see i make tips as well, on a good night i can clear £50 in tips, that is cash in my pocket.
also its not always like that, i do sometimes comeout ahead, i will admit not very often but it does happen.
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