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rick-gti

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:40 am

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When bleeding the brakes am I best to do it with the engine running or with it not?


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Lee

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:46 am

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Leave the engine off and use a eze bleeder

chilipepper

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:57 am

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Location: Armadale, West Lothian

just read about the eze bleeder - is it as easy at it seems?


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MrBSI

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:34 am

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chilipepper wrote:

just read about the eze bleeder - is it as easy at it seems?

Yes, just read the instructions before use Wink


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ronnie

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:12 am

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Replaced a rear axle (drums) and could not get fluid to come thro when bleeding Tried and tried but nothing......... then used an EZE Bleeder.........job done in minutes Can't praise this product enough


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V9977

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:23 am

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Lee wrote:

Leave the engine off and use a eze bleeder

Is that definate?

Also what about ABS? Anything to bear in-mind about that when bleeding.

I have a Sealy pressure-bleeding container with a hand-pump and gauge..


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rick-gti

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:30 am

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I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.


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MrBSI

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:45 am

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rick-gti wrote:

I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

Very easy to ruin the master cylinder seals with this method as most people will just pump the pedal all the way to the floor repeatedly Laughing


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paul_c

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:48 am

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MrBSI wrote:

rick-gti wrote:

I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

Very easy to ruin the master cylinder seals with this method as most people will just pump the pedal all the way to the floor repeatedly Laughing

I'd rather find a fault with my master cylinder seals in the workshop, than the first time I need to do an emergency stop! yes, its possible to damage the seals but if you're gentle, and only go about 70% of the way with the pedal, you should be fine. Also, a one-way valve on a tube clipped over the bleed nipple makes it a one man job, and much quicker.

V9977

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:30 am

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paul_c wrote:

MrBSI wrote:

rick-gti wrote:

I use the old fashion method of gettin sum 1 to press the pedal while I open the nipple. All done now, breaks feel alot firmer.

Very easy to ruin the master cylinder seals with this method as most people will just pump the pedal all the way to the floor repeatedly Laughing

Much as I hate to admit it I'm with BSI on this.
You can stress it, not find-out immediately in the garage, then later have it clap-out at the worst possible moment.

Oh, and:

V9977 wrote:

Lee wrote:

Leave the engine off and use a eze bleeder

Is that definate?

Also what about ABS? Anything to bear in-mind about that when bleeding.

I have a Sealy pressure-bleeding container with a hand-pump and gauge..


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paul_c

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:47 pm

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Location: UK

If you're paranoid about the seals going, you can move the brake pedal through the normal amount of movement you'd normally use, at the normal speed. Even if the worst happens, master cylinders have secondary seals and 2 circuits.


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MrBSI

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:54 pm

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paul_c wrote:

If you're paranoid about the seals going

Its not that, on here I wouldnt trust 75% of the people to bleed brakes the old fashioned way without cocking it up, remember the typical 206 owner we get on here these days Wink


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rick-gti

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:26 pm

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I have allways used this method and never had a problem. I never press the pedal all the way to the flool. Brakes feel better now. Changing discs and pads next month.


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MrBSI

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:31 pm

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Ive never had a problem bleeding brakes the old way BUT there is plenty of people on here I wouldnt trust not to make a complete balls up of the operation using the pedal pumping bleeding method.


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