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 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:33 am |
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Joined: Apr 01, 2012
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Location: Walsall
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Hi guys great job your doing with the forum, been reading a lot of info on here and it's been very interesting. I have a problem and was wondering if you guys could help. The misses and I brought a 206 recently and on a journey the other day the temp went through the roof and eventually the engine light come on. So stopped and waited until it cooled down, we was stuck in traffic. I can't hear the fan kicking in, and also the a/c has stopped working just blows hot air. It did work when we brought the car. But to keep temp down in traffic have to have the heaters full on hot which cooks me in this hot weather, I was wondering if you guys had any info? If you need more to go on then please ask and I will try my best, it's a 1.4 8v on a v plate. 1991. Also where the pipe attaches to the coolant bottle the clip has come off so the hose is jut pushed on, but it hasn't leaked only once or when temp goes above 100. But I top it up and it lowers abit. Sits at about 90 while on motorway or driving constantly but don't like sitting in traffic and rises really quickly. Thanks guys and info would be much appreciated
Dan
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:00 am |
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:36 am |
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Cheers will give it ago, just a pain in the a**e that you have to remove bumper.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:40 am |
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Na you can access the area without removing the whole bumper. Just remove the top grill area above the bumper/under the lights. 
this description helped me also:
www.petercoopercarrepa..._fan_w.htm
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:55 am |
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You can check the relay connections with the bumper in place. If anything needs fixing it's easier if you remove the bumper.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:08 am |
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| Dannyskittles wrote: |
| just a pain in the a**e that you have to remove bumper. |
Front bumper takes less then 5 minutes to remove on a 206 with the right tools.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:22 am |
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If the bolts on the wings aren't seized...
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:27 am |
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Everything on this car is seized lol. Well I'll put it on some axle stands and have a look. See if I can see anything and then start removing anything in my way great help so far cheers guys
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:29 am |
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Had some problems with my 206 and overheating when I brought it. I knew this to be the case at the time of purchasing and was prepared to fix it all the way to the head gasket if necessary as the condition of the car was worth the work. Bloody bargain it was too LOL.
First point of checking for us was the fan and we found that all the wiring concerned with the fan was corroded and crumbled when disturbed so be prepared to have to extend and replace wires / connections.
We ended up using male and female bullet connectors to extend broken wires and spade connector females to make new connections to the relays etc.
It's not a hard job. Just takes a bit of time and patience.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:51 am |
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If all the wiring it past its best then I'd just remove it right back to the earth behind the bumpers and the fuse box.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:13 am |
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Dannskittles: if you haven't got one already you will need a wiring diagram to help with this. You may get lucky and find it just by disconnecting and reconnecting but the fan / air conditioning circuit is not a simple one on these and there are individual components and connectors that are used for the control of both the air conditioning and fan motor so I imagine the fault is related.
I think you will find the diagram on the www somewhere, I know I did but haven't kept it, but for example there are four fuses
F7, F21, F37 and F38 that all supply power to these systems. Start by checking those.
After that there are all the connections, the low speed fan relay and fan resistor.
However, again the previous advice, get a circuit diagram and a multi-meter. If you don't then good luck fault finding it could turn out to be time consuming.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:15 am |
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The fan wiring is really simple on these cars. No need for a wiring diagram.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:25 am |
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Well taking it apart tomorrow morning, so hopefully will be sorted by tomorrow afternoon and will post updates and try and get a few pics might help people out abit. So will keep you updated.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:52 am |
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Joined: May 20, 2010
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ill say 90% that its the fan relays.
i had the exact same problem, both relays wer coroded very badly which also caused a wire to snap.
2 new relays and some new wire and al sortd, cooling fan an a/c fan work perfectly.
i didnt have a front grill in at the time which made it very easy just keep your hands away from the fan 
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:21 am |
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I had this too. Easy/cheap to fix.
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