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 Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:04 am |
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NIGHTMARE!
when i began the task of dropping my car i was told that the T40 Torx screws was the hellish task but ? the washers behind the Torx Bolts are 10000X worse ... iv managed to rip 2 of the 4 out but the last 2 are impossible iv had a lump hammer and snapped 3 screwdrivers trying to wack them free but they dont budge :'( there currently soaking in some ZX54 Rush Eater hoping that this loosens them up
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:21 pm |
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Put the screw back in and tap the torsion bar away from the washer. The bar can be tight against the washer preventing it from being moved. Only problem is if the bar is seized you'll struggle to move it away from the washer.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:49 pm |
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got the washers out now  having a mare getting the top bar out :'(
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:03 pm |
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Put the screws back in firmly. Hit them instead of the end of the bar. Cheaper to replace some squashed screws than dented torsion bars.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:32 pm |
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haha , didnt want to squash my torx screw so i put another one in and that squished :/ ill try pull it out tomorrow hopefully i can get a socket around it  knocking this on the head for tonight round 2 tomorrow 
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:21 pm |
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Just buy some new ones. Better to put new ones in with copper grease on than reuse the old ones.
I chisel can easily remove battered TB bolts.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 2:47 pm |
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dont suppose you can tell me ?
the top torsion bar gets hammered on the driver side and comes out the passenger ?
the bottom hammered on the passenger and comes out the drivers ??
just i was wailing it for at least a hour today and it didnt budge
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:02 pm |
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Quite simply they get inserted through the trailing arm...so they come out that way too.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:46 pm |
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hmm lol , i could probably write everything i know about cars on the back of a stamp
what exactly is the trailing arm ? iv taken a photo
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:55 pm |
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the arm that the bars go into.
jack them up a tiny bit also take a bit of pressure off the splines. i also found that racket strapping them together stopped any movement and meant all force went into the bar moving.
the top one you hit from the drivers side iirc its the opposite to the bottom anyways
get new washer and torxs its about 8 quid and a must really.
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:04 pm |
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so its like this
trailing arm is in red and the top bar will slide out --->--->--->
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:28 pm |
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ive just done mine today and the top bar goes that way out and the bottom goes the other way
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:31 pm |
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thanks johnny !!
been wacking mine for around a hour the wrong way -.-
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:54 pm |
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then if i was you spray it with loads of WD40 mate i would lol
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Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:50 am |
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They go in through the trailing arm - the arm the wheel is attached to.
When knocking the torsion bars out you need to make sure you aren't just pushing the arms off the tube. So the arm needs holding in place maybe with some timber between it and a wall.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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