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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:01 am |
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Joined: Jun 18, 2012 Posts: 280
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Location: Birmingham
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Engine management light came on the dashboard. The light wasnt flashing, it was constant on.
Anyone had/experienced this error code before?
generic error code P0221:
Throttle/Pedal Position Sensor/Switch B Circuit Range/Performance
which one is it?
Its a 2006 1.4 peugeot 206
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:10 am |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011 Posts: 6526
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:14 am |
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the 1st one isnt.
Where are the 2 TPS and the APP sensors?
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:50 pm |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 4266
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Location: Palestine
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very_452001 wrote: |
the 1st one isnt.
Where are the 2 TPS and the APP sensors? |
He gave you the link because you have the same problem as that guy,but ofcourse not the brake light switch,that guy had fixed his problem as you read,and you can do the same,if you don't know much about that,take a look at this thread,might be helpful and give you an idea on what to do and what to take off
Cleaning Throttle Body
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:42 pm |
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Joined: Jun 18, 2012 Posts: 280
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Location: Birmingham
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Timon2210 wrote: |
very_452001 wrote: |
the 1st one isnt.
Where are the 2 TPS and the APP sensors? |
He gave you the link because you have the same problem as that guy,but ofcourse not the brake light switch,that guy had fixed his problem as you read,and you can do the same,if you don't know much about that,take a look at this thread,might be helpful and give you an idea on what to do and what to take off
Cleaning Throttle Body |
Before I do that I like to know where are the Where are the 2 TPS and the APP sensors? Are the 2 TPS sensors in the throttle body?
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Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:29 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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Sounds like either your pedal (Accelerator Pedal Position) or the motorised throttle body (Throttle Position Sensor) are throwing up the code.
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:00 am |
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Location: Birmingham
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V9977 wrote: |
Sounds like either your pedal (Accelerator Pedal Position) or the motorised throttle body (Throttle Position Sensor) are throwing up the code. |
Is there pics showing where those sensors are?
Is this a serious problem? Will the problem get worser if i ignore it or will it effect driving like mpg?
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:32 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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You should not ignore EML coming on.
Assuming your setup is as I understand it (drive by wire) the pedal is electric (APP) and the throttle butterfly is motorised and contains the TPS in it.
A pic of your engine bay would help.
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| 1.4i, 2001, 3-door, China Blue
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 11:09 am |
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Joined: Jun 18, 2012 Posts: 280
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Location: Birmingham
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Ok there's 5 possible fixes:
- Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) harness is open or shorted
- Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
- Fault Electric Throttle Control Actuator (or Throttle Body Motor)
- Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor (APP)
Which one is the common likely fix?
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Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:24 am |
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Joined: Dec 03, 2012 Posts: 96
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Morning,
I would plug in a code scanner that does live data. Then look at the TPS(%) when the key is in the ignition but the car not running.
That would probably give you the best idea what's going on.
Regards, Richard.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:37 pm |
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Joined: Jun 18, 2012 Posts: 280
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Location: Birmingham
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RichardEke wrote: |
Morning,
I would plug in a code scanner that does live data. Then look at the TPS(%) when the key is in the ignition but the car not running.
That would probably give you the best idea what's going on.
Regards, Richard. |
Thanks for the advice. I keep you guys updated with the results.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2014 5:47 am |
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Joined: Jun 18, 2012 Posts: 280
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Location: Birmingham
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update:
with my Vgate VS550 diagnostic code scanner I plugged it in to my 206 and obtained the following result located in live data menu under datastream menu:
TP is 9.8%
Any advice?
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 12:38 pm |
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bump anyone?
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Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:38 pm |
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very_452001 wrote: |
update:
with my Vgate VS550 diagnostic code scanner I plugged it in to my 206 and obtained the following result located in live data menu under datastream menu:
TP is 9.8%
Any advice? |
Was the 9.8% constant - no change when you push down the accelerator pedal?
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 5:46 am |
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Joined: Jun 18, 2012 Posts: 280
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mtempsch wrote: |
very_452001 wrote: |
update:
with my Vgate VS550 diagnostic code scanner I plugged it in to my 206 and obtained the following result located in live data menu under datastream menu:
TP is 9.8%
Any advice? |
Was the 9.8% constant - no change when you push down the accelerator pedal? |
Ok I do the test including the new parameter you just mentioned. I was advised by member RichardEke above to check TPS while engine not running.
With the new parameter you mentioned do you want me to the run the test with the engine on or off?
Any other parameters apart pushing the gas pedal you want me to include in the test?
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