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#1: Hard braking in a 180 Author: EuroPeugeot, Location: SW England PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:08 am
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Maybe a silly quesion,

But ive recently upgraded from a 138 to a 180 Very Happy

It seems when I brake hard in the 180, the hazard come on, and I have to switch them off manually, and i find this annoying.

I'll be putting my brembo calipers on the 180 over the weekend, and I shall be doing some even heavier braking.

Is there anything I can do to stop the hazard coming on after braking hard?

#2: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:10 am
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Search! Laughing

This thread only came up a couple of days ago Wink

Link

#3: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lee206xsi, Location: Cheltenham PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:11 am
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brake earlier and softer? saves you going through your brakes so quick too

i believe its a safety feature to warn other drivers than your choosing to brake late so they dont end up parking their car in your boot

#4: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: EuroPeugeot, Location: SW England PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:14 am
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CD-206GTi wrote:
Search! Laughing

This thread only came up a couple of days ago Wink

Link

Embarassed Sorry Smile i did have a search, but found nothing



lee206xsi wrote:
brake earlier and softer? saves you going through your brakes so quick too

i believe its a safety feature to warn other drivers than your choosing to brake late so they dont end up parking their car in your boot

I know how to brake etc, and i know why the hazard come on, I wanted to know how to stop them from coming on automatically, thanks anyway dude Smile

#5: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, Fife PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:21 am
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Don't turn off safety features - it's daft Smile It's only happened once to me when a woman pulled out onto a road. It felt worse than an emergency stop and she got a crazy beep of the horn and daggers for as long as i could see her.

#6: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/London PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:23 am
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you cant i dont think

you put any pics of your 180 up? what you done with the euro?

#7: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, Fife PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:35 am
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dan_pug206sport wrote:
you cant i dont think

EuroPeugeot wrote:
....and I have to switch them off manually, and i find this annoying.

Is what i was reffering to.

#8: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/London PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:38 am
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indeed to be fair turning them off isnt wise as brian said.

would you rather have your hazards flash for a min and annoy you

or

have an old lady hit you ni the back not knowing that you were braking that hard?


i no what i would prefer

#9: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: ExoVyper, Location: Waiting for the tugboats to push me into port (Whitehaven) PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:41 am
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as ant was saying in the previous thred

if you start driving normally again they turn themselves off

#10: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:46 am
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The 180 is becoming the car of choice for boyracers these days

oh well, there'll be less 180's in a few years when they smash them up.
Then values will go up again Laughing

#11: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:47 am
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ExoVyper wrote:
as ant was saying in the previous thred

if you start driving normally again they turn themselves off

"they return to normal when you do" Laughing

#12: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: ExoVyper, Location: Waiting for the tugboats to push me into port (Whitehaven) PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:50 am
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lol dont be so anal about it xD

#13: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:51 am
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ExoVyper wrote:
lol dont be so anal about it xD

lol Si - you just misquoted me, that's all LOL

#14: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Seb, Location: Under your bed PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:54 am
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Antix wrote:

Then values will go up again Laughing

Not so sure on that, seen what happened to the Saxos? Don't see many of them going back up in value!

Or the Type R's for that fact.

#15: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: ExoVyper, Location: Waiting for the tugboats to push me into port (Whitehaven) PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:54 am
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i'm on my works comp so it would've taken me ages to go onto the other page Razz

#16: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:01 am
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Seb wrote:
Antix wrote:

Then values will go up again Laughing

Not so sure on that, seen what happened to the Saxos? Don't see many of them going back up in value!

Or the Type R's for that fact.

Seen what's happened to 205 values though? Wink
It will be sought-after ... mark my words!!

#17: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Seb, Location: Under your bed PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:03 am
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Antix wrote:

Seen what's happened to 205 values though? Wink
It will be sought-after ... mark my words!!

Chances are we'll all be banned from driving and made to ride cycles everywhere soon anyway...! 'Environment' and all that.

#18: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0 PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:05 am
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What's an "environment"?

#19: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lee206xsi, Location: Cheltenham PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:07 am
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i dont see 180's going up in value at all, hardly a sort after or iconic car like the 205, plus there are much more better hatchback on the mark for the same price and age of the 180

the gti-6 was the last pug which impressed the motorworld and they are worth sweet f/a these days

#20: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:26 am
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lee206xsi wrote:
i dont see 180's going up in value at all, hardly a sort after or iconic car like the 205, plus there are much more better hatchback on the mark for the same price and age of the 180

the gti-6 was the last pug which impressed the motorworld and they are worth sweet f/a these days

"there are much more better"

FAIL,
Stay behind after class

#21: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lee206xsi, Location: Cheltenham PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:59 am
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yeah ok my grammar isn't the best but hey maybe I'll improve when i finish uni but on that basis, i don't give two turds

#22: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:24 pm
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Antix wrote:
The 180 is becoming the car of choice for boyracers these days

oh well, there'll be less 180's in a few years when they smash them up.
Then values will go up again Laughing

Embarassed

#23: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:31 pm
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Is it hazards coming on not to do with the ESP kicking in under hard braking? As the hazards only tend to come under emergency braking in other 206's.

#24: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lnorth, Location: Coventry/Leeds PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:38 pm
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Well what I was wondering, sort of related to the post above, what cars have this feature?

Is it only 180's or only cars with ESP or cars with ABS/EBFD? Or is it just a random optional extra...is there anyway of telling from the servicebox?

#25: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:42 pm
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Don't drive like a
 


 

#26: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lnorth, Location: Coventry/Leeds PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:52 pm
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Just wondering whether my car had it :/

#27: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:57 pm
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I think all phase two cars came with ABS, then the rest depends on spec. Only the Gti180 and GTi HDi (i think) came with ESP.

You can look it up on service box, check the characteristics of the car.

#28: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 1:59 pm
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Lee wrote:
Don't drive like a
 

bit late now

#29: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: cat180, Location: leicester PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:00 pm
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hi all, just been out for a play in the 180 and what can i say. such a giggle. driven propper they really are fun. didn't realise they had this emergency braking s**t thing. good idea just took me by suprise

#30: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:32 pm
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Lee wrote:
I think all phase two cars came with ABS, then the rest depends on spec. Only the Gti180 and GTi HDi (i think) came with ESP.

You can look it up on service box, check the characteristics of the car.

Later GTi's had ESP too Wink

#31: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Iain, Location: Aberdeen, Scotland PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:35 pm
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Antix wrote:
Lee wrote:
Don't drive like a
 

bit late now

Isn't the car in question now a write off?

#32: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:39 pm
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Iain wrote:
Antix wrote:
Lee wrote:
Don't drive like a
 

bit late now

Isn't the car in question now a write off?

correct

#33: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:47 pm
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G. wrote:
Is it hazards coming on not to do with the ESP kicking in under hard braking? As the hazards only tend to come under emergency braking in other 206's.

EBA + auto hazard lights are listed on SE models and upwards from January 2004

ESP is listed on GTi models from April 2004

#34: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lnorth, Location: Coventry/Leeds PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:03 pm
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I have a phase 2 03, that doesn't have ABS Sad

So I guess it's unlikely that I'll have auto-hazards...sigh

#35: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:06 pm
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lnorth wrote:
I have a phase 2 03, that doesn't have ABS Sad

So I guess it's unlikely that I'll have auto-hazards...sigh

1.1's are less likely to warrant auto-hazards as much as higher-spec models [with disc brakes all-round]

#36: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: lnorth, Location: Coventry/Leeds PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:15 pm
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That is very very true Razz

I wish I had more power haha, still never know might find a pot of gold and get a GTi180 one day Razz

#37: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Dave, Location: Birmingham PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:44 am
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Antix wrote:
lnorth wrote:
I have a phase 2 03, that doesn't have ABS Sad

So I guess it's unlikely that I'll have auto-hazards...sigh

1.1's are less likely to warrant auto-hazards as much as higher-spec models [with disc brakes all-round]

My 1.4 8v with drums on the back had the auto hazards.

#38: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:34 am
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I've only had the auto hazards come on once in the 3 years i've had it... you'd have to be driving like a bit of a tit to get them on regularly enough to be annoying.

LOL at some of the comments in this thread tho... proper funny stuff, wish i'd seen it sooner.

#39: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:35 am
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*Edit* What you mean by a bit late now, he crashed it already?

#40: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0 PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:36 am
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Yep

#41: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:41 am
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Oh my days, poor 180 Sad

Was a nice car if I remember.

#42: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Dave, Location: Birmingham PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:42 am
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Lol, It happened to me about 3 times over 2 years in my 1.4, one of those was doing it on purpose in a safe place. Two emergency stops.

He really must have been driving like a d**k, just saw the crash photos! lol!

#43: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:45 am
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Yea I just saw those photos too, sounds like he was only third party if he's selling the bits off this quick. Fail Sad

#44: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:45 am
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Who crashed?

#45: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Geoff, Location: Evesham, Worcestershire PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:50 am
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CD-206GTi wrote:
Who crashed?

The OP. He has a for sale thread for a 180 being sold for parts.


Must have lasted a week at most? Crying or Very sad

#46: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:51 am
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Geoff wrote:
CD-206GTi wrote:
Who crashed?

The OP. He has a for sale thread for a 180 being sold for parts.


Must have lasted a week at most? Crying or Very sad

Just saw Sad

#47: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:57 am
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Yeah, he wanted it picked-up by the RAC recovery because he wouldn't get insured on it for a month or two from memory

#48: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: EuroPeugeot, Location: SW England PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:07 am
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Dave wrote:
Lol, It happened to me about 3 times over 2 years in my 1.4, one of those was doing it on purpose in a safe place. Two emergency stops.

He really must have been driving like a Boy thingy, just saw the crash photos! lol!

The crash was not my fault :s

I haven't explained what had happened yet.

#49: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Geoff, Location: Evesham, Worcestershire PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:12 am
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EuroPeugeot wrote:
Dave wrote:
Lol, It happened to me about 3 times over 2 years in my 1.4, one of those was doing it on purpose in a safe place. Two emergency stops.

He really must have been driving like a Boy thingy, just saw the crash photos! lol!

The crash was not my fault :s

I haven't explained what had happened yet.

No, the wall came out and hit you.... Rolling Eyes

#50: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: EuroPeugeot, Location: SW England PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:12 am
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Geoff wrote:
EuroPeugeot wrote:
Dave wrote:
Lol, It happened to me about 3 times over 2 years in my 1.4, one of those was doing it on purpose in a safe place. Two emergency stops.

He really must have been driving like a Boy thingy, just saw the crash photos! lol!

The crash was not my fault :s

I haven't explained what had happened yet.

No, the wall came out and hit you.... Rolling Eyes

p***k, shut up

#51: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Seb, Location: Under your bed PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:46 am
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People must be really unlucky, I've thankfully managed 4 years without even a scratch as of yet.

#52: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:54 am
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Seb wrote:
People must be really unlucky, I've thankfully managed 4 years without even a scratch as of yet.

Aye, my last one was in 1996... long may it continue.

#53: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: EuroPeugeot, Location: SW England PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:02 am
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Now its my turn for good luck with cars right? Shocked Smile

#54: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Quarmbo, Location: Bristol & Leicester PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:02 am
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What actually happened then?

#55: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex! PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:12 am
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I only had the auto hazards come on when I was on track, but they'd turn off once I started accelerating. I never had to press the hazard button to turn them off.

#56: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: shaker, Location: Austria PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:21 am
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I don't have this function.. But i have ESP Laughing
I'm surprised by the difference between ESP on and off, when on track.

#57: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / Turkey PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:02 am
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shaker wrote:
I don't have this function.. But i have ESP Laughing
I'm surprised by the difference between ESP on and off, when on track.

What you mean suprised. ESP is good or bad ?

#58: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: shaker, Location: Austria PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:14 am
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ESP is good for normal road use.
On track, the first 3-4 times i used ESP to get to some experience, and start learning where my driving-skills stop.
When i de-activated it for the first time on track, i felt a much more agressive turn-in, and it sort of wants power earlier.
(ESP cuts power if it feels the car is going too close to the limit, and helps prevent wheelspin.. atleast that's what i think?)

Always remember though, know your personal limitations!!
Seen a few cars spin out, and worst case was a Porsche Boxster that got totalled - never got to chat with the owner, but it looked like the rear started stepping out, and before he could correct it, one of the wheels got on the grass and from there on, you're basically reduced to being a passenger..

#59: Re: Hard braking in a 180 Author: Dave, Location: Birmingham PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:43 pm
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EuroPeugeot wrote:
Dave wrote:
Lol, It happened to me about 3 times over 2 years in my 1.4, one of those was doing it on purpose in a safe place. Two emergency stops.

He really must have been driving like a Boy thingy, just saw the crash photos! lol!

The crash was not my fault :s

I haven't explained what had happened yet.

This thread and your crash.

Pure coincidence? lol!

Unlucky though pal.



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