#1: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: curt, Location: darwenPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:52 pm ---- hi just wanted to no wood a 1.4 8v engine go in my 1.1 8v 02 206 ? with no messin about just i st8 bot in and plug in ?
thanks
curt
#2: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: sherman_2009, Location: Glouster & Manchester UKPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:12 pm ---- it would but you won't really feel the difference
#3: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: smiddies, Location: BrightonPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:13 pm ---- Waste of time, 1.1s are probably about the same speed till bwt 70, or uphill lol
#4: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: MFACTOR001, Location: sheffieldPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:43 pm ---- why are you wanting to put 1.4 in ,what you hoping for?.
#5: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:54 pm ---- straight swap but you are looking at 250 in labour to swap it. possibly more. fair enough if the engine needs doing anyway though
#6: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:15 pm ---- go for 1.6,mine is 1.4,thinking of doing it 1.6 8V :),just waiting for the right car to come to scrapy
#7: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:30 am ---- The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however. Last edited by MEGA on Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:23 am; edited 1 time in total
#8: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:39 am ---- I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1
#9: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:02 am ----
NorthantsBen wrote:
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1
Power to weight is very important with small cars. Additional passengers or a boot full of ICE will make a massive difference
#10: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: vintageoriginal, Location: London, UKPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:03 am ---- I've done a 1.4 8V to 1.6 16V conversion.
#11: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:12 am ---- Congrats
#12: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:30 am ----
NorthantsBen wrote:
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1
think the older ones only have single point injection thats why. unless thats just on the saxo engines
#13: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:34 am ----
MEGA wrote:
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.
Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway?
#14: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:39 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
MEGA wrote:
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.
Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway?
most scrap yards sell the block on its own without the gearbox. if you could get a decent clutch for the 1.1 i would stick with the gearbox as the gear ratios are bound to be shorter.
#15: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:43 am ---- Buy my 1.6 engine (s)?
Alot faster than any 1.4
#16: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:44 am ----
Rob2859 wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
MEGA wrote:
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.
Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway?
most scrap yards sell the block on its own without the gearbox. if you could get a decent clutch for the 1.1 i would stick with the gearbox as the gear ratios are bound to be shorter.
Yes. I've used my old 1.1 gearbox as it is perfect for a track application. Maybe not quite wide enough to get me to max out the engine on a motorway but more than sufficient for the track.
Ideally I'd have a custom gearbox with even shorter gearing but a 6th gear.. But I suppose you can't have it all. Atleast not on a shoestring budget :)
#17: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, NorthamptonshirePosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:58 pm ----
Rob2859 wrote:
NorthantsBen wrote:
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1
think the older ones only have single point injection thats why. unless thats just on the saxo engines
Nar was multipoint.
#18: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: curt, Location: darwenPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:01 am ---- I was just asking because the 1.1 I have in now is shot and I can't find out what is put(?) and I was just going to stick the 1.4 in because I can get hold of a cheap one off a friend not too bothered about speed or anything. I just want my car working again, thanks for the comments.
Please can you refrain from using text talk, thanks. Seb
#19: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:44 am ----
curt wrote:
i woz just askin because the 1.1 i hav in now is F****d and i cant find out what is put and i woz just goin to stick the 1.4 in because i can i hold of a cheap off a friend not to assed about seed or ano thing like lol just want my car workin agen haha thanks for all the coments
thanks curt
in that case put a 1.4 in it. will cost no more as it is a straight swap pretty much.
#20: Re: 1.1 to 1.4 ? Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:17 am ----
curt wrote:
I was just asking because the 1.1 I have in now is shot and I can't find out what is put(?) and I was just going to stick the 1.4 in because I can get hold of a cheap one off a friend not too bothered about speed or anything. I just want my car working again, thanks for the comments.
Please can you refrain from using text talk, thanks. Seb
I is jus finkin dat u should do dat den bro get a 1.4 and drop it in isn't it.
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