#1: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Superman, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:51 pm ---- Hi guys
I feel a little embarrassed about coming here for advice and having little in the way of knowledge to offer in return, but I am drawing a blank lately and wonder whether some helpful folk here can help with this.
I recently loaned my girlfriend some money to buy a cheap runaround and she made a royal mess of it. Further to this I then purchased myself a pretty little thing for which she is very envious.
She has eyes on the 206. She likes the styling and that's her main concern really. She's 21, and a careful driver, so doesn't have much interest in the 2.0 litre which would only cost her more.
Her only real requirement is the colour. She's pretty much dead set on black.
What advice can you give on looking at 206's. I've seen the beginner's guide and many a post on common faults, but I need something a little more concrete for basing this search.
Are the 1.1 litres worth avoiding? They seem very common around here.
Some of the lower end specs seem archaic, at what level would one begin to take notice of these sales?
We're looking at spending around £3,000. Is this a sensible budget? It would seem so on the research that I have done over the past few days, but can anybody shed further light into this?
Many thanks for any help you can offer
#2: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Drake, Location: MidlandsPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:58 pm ---- It really depends on what you want.
Are you after a no thrills run around or something to mod (engine or looks, etc).
One of the things I like about the 206 range is that there's a model for so many different requirements (if that make sense). EG: You want something a little sporty? Go for a GTi or GTi 180. You want style? Go for a quiksilver. You want a dis**l go for a HDi. You want a run around? Get a 1.1! etc etc. Last edited by Drake on Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:59 pm; edited 1 time in total
#3: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:58 pm ---- Im not just saying this because im selling mine www.206info.co.uk/Foru...13965.html
But i love my little 1.1, its been great.
I must admit i was set on black when i started looking for a 206, but then the one i own came up from a family friend, so i decided to go ahead with it.
I modified it how i wanted, based on looks alone really, I can't say my 1.1 is slow, it keeps up with 1.4's as i think the bhp difference between these 8v'ers is about 15. not that much when you think about it.
Also if you look at my car, i've upgraded most of the 'low spec' items. which i think is a great benefit
Hope this helps
#4: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:00 pm ---- I think that's a fairly sensible budget.
If she's that age she may seem to find the 1.1's a bit lethargic.
I had a 1.4 as my first car and had it for nearly 2 and a half years.
I'm not sure what you would find for your budget but by the looks of autotrader you can get a decent 1.4 16v with aircon at around 30k miles in black, on a '55 plate.
I'd just check the standard things - condition of interior/exterior. And check out the service history and try and judge if the previous owner has driven it hard.
Most problems tend to be fairly obvious though, if you're really uneasy perhaps get another member to come and take a look with you?
Hope that helps. Last edited by Seb on Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
#5: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Drake, Location: MidlandsPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:00 pm ---- Another thing that I like is the 206 style is still kind of in "fashion". Even though it was first produced in 1998 (someone prove me wrong if this is wrong please) it is still within todays styling 12 years on!
(PS I am totally going off on one about lovin 206s... blame the bottle of JD ) Last edited by Drake on Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
#6: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:01 pm ---- also 3k depends on model etc
2003 plate 1.1 from dealer = £3000
51 plate 2.0 gti from dealer = £3000
Again it depends on dealer or private, mileage, owners, etc etc
#7: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:01 pm ---- for that price range, i recon you could get a nice looking Black, XSI
Which will have all the GTi outside looks, and a pretty decent 1.6 16v engine too.
#8: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:01 pm ---- If you are after a cheap, reliable 206 then the 2.0 HDi is your safest bet. Later models will be cheaper to tax, the Eco HDi's fall into the £35.00 a year road tax bracket too! Newer 2.0 HDi's also use the same turbo as the DV6
#9: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:03 pm ----
Drake wrote:
Another thing that I like is the 206 style is still kind of in "fashion". Even though it was first produced in 1998 (someone prove me wrong if this is wrong please) it is still within todays styling 12 years on!
(PS I am totally going off on one about lovin 206s... blame the bottle of JD )
Good point on 12year old car, as its such a round looking car for the year it was made.
Also loving the edit = JD ftw
#10: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:08 pm ----
PugJH wrote:
Drake wrote:
Another thing that I like is the 206 style is still kind of in "fashion". Even though it was first produced in 1998 (someone prove me wrong if this is wrong please) it is still within todays styling 12 years on!
(PS I am totally going off on one about lovin 206s... blame the bottle of JD )
Good point on 12year old car, as its such a round looking car for the year it was made.
Also loving the edit = JD ftw
Correctamundo, don't think I've seen any on a plate earlier than an 'S' = '98.
#11: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:10 pm ----
G. wrote:
PugJH wrote:
Drake wrote:
Another thing that I like is the 206 style is still kind of in "fashion". Even though it was first produced in 1998 (someone prove me wrong if this is wrong please) it is still within todays styling 12 years on!
(PS I am totally going off on one about lovin 206s... blame the bottle of JD )
Good point on 12year old car, as its such a round looking car for the year it was made.
Also loving the edit = JD ftw
Correctamundo, don't think I've seen any on a plate earlier than an 'S' = '98.
Yep your all right, My track car is one of the first ever made 206's, which is on a S reg, Registered on 2nd Sept 98
#12: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: the_bowman, Location: Leicestershire (Ashby de la Zouch)Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:12 pm ---- Little bit of a guide: I just bought a 52 plate 2.0hdi from a local dealer for £2900 on 65k miles with all the trim bits
#14: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Superman, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:27 pm ---- Very helpful stuff guys.
G. I did discuss this with her - it's one of the only things I knew, but she seems concerned with running a diesel around town almost soley. Any idea how it would handle this in a 206?
Drake, big fan of the early start on the weekend you are getting!
I think I overpaid recently for mine, but family owned from new with all receipts for everything was worth a lot to me as I'm planning to 70 mile commute 3/4 times a week!
PugJH, I do like that. She's much more down the line than perhaps she should be, with OTT parents. How much of the work you've done would effect her insurance? In your opinion are the 1.1 petrols reliable? I think I might just be pessimistic because it's the smallest engine and I imagine that means it's been skimped on...
#15: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Superman, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:33 pm ---- Quarmbo, it's gorgeous, but she won't go for the added £1k for insurance.
Think she's paying about £400 right now with 2yr NCB
#16: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:39 pm ---- The 1.1 and 1.4 8 valve petrol engines are both pretty much the same in both makeup (bar capacity) and also spec for the car. The 1.6 8 valve is slightly different, but mostly the same.
The 16 valve engines are the newer ones and they come in 1.4, 1.6 (XSi) and 2.0 (GTi and GTi180) for the petrols.
Diesels come in 1.4 and 2.0 8 valve engines, and 1.6 litre 16 valve engines. There is another diesel, the 1.9, which is non turbo, and I wouldn't personally consider that. And it's an incredibly old design.
A 1.4 16v will be more powerful than the equivalent 1.4 8v engine.
To go back to your comments on the 1.1, there's nothing wrong with them at all, they do actually tend to drink more petrol than the 1.4s because they do work quite hard. I think the 1.4 and 1.6 are the best in terms of coming to a compromise between power and economy.
The HDi diesels will quite happily potter around, but beware the 1.6 ones have more problems than the 1.4 and 2.0 ones.
#17: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:41 pm ---- Superman - I'm male with 2 years no claims and my quote came in at about £700 for a GTi180, so being female her's is likely to be less, but probably a bit more than her current £400.
Seb
#18: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Quarmbo, Location: Bristol & LeicesterPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:42 pm ---- I was thinking more for you mate! Give her yours and treat yourself!
#19: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Superman, Location: SwindonPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:45 pm ----
Quarmbo wrote:
I was thinking more for you mate! Give her yours and treat yourself!
Mine's a week old!
Seb - I'll check that again. I ran a quick pseudo quote on confused.com before I posted that reply using her DOB/address/ect. She lives in a low risk post code area so that shouldn't be an issue.
#20: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:48 pm ---- I'd avoid the 1.4 8v, a little more gutsy than the 1.1 perhaps but they are truely shocking for fuel consumption. By comparison, may people say they get 380-400 miles from a tank, but when i had my one i was up nearer 500 miles to a tank. So because of that, if you want an 8v engine, i'd say go for the 1.1 8v.
But the nicer model is the 1.4 16v, you won't have to bury the foot down everywhere therefore you'll see better return in fuel consumption. Being a "sport" model too it'll have much nicer styling (wider wings, deep mouth front bumper) and a few extra's on the interior too. One of the nicer petrol engine's i'd say. The 1.6 XSi is a nice car but it's on par with the GTi for fuel consumption and it'll drive insurance up.
So i'd say the 1.4 16v or the 2.0 hdi. There is a 1.4HDi, but you'd be quicker hopping to your destination on one leg and falling over every 10 hops
#21: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:02 pm ---- The 2.0HDi is immense (I am in no way biased.) It is a great all-rounder!
Its nippy enough to overtake when needed/desired. Yet returns great MPG, even when driven hard, I have had nearly 70mpg return at times.
Its a group 5 insurance, for my pretty well modified HDi its only £500 and I am 19.
Lots of tuning potential (if you get bored or she wants more power)
Its a solid engine, will run for a long time if looked after.
Reliable.
Avoid the 1.6 diesel unless you have the patience with the FAP. (Basically a filter that likes to unblock itself and is costly to replace).
1.4HDi - doesnt really compare to the 2.0 and I doubt there is much difference between the Insurance brackets either.
Petrol
1.1 - IMO its got no guts.
1.4 - Not the best for MPG, not got much guts either, however it is not a bad engine and is nice enough to drive.
1.6 - Heard good things about this, however never driven one.
Gti + Gti180 - 180 hands down, but out of your price range. Gti138 - Good, but if shes not arsed about a 2.0...
If she likes the styling, go for an XSI or Sport and a model newer than 03 (in most cars) as it will come with the sports bumpers, etc.
Otherwise buy an LX (poverty spec) and mod it for her, plenty of ideas off here. Mine is an LX, well was. Look at it now.
#22: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:12 am ---- Must agree with brian on the fuel consumption of a 1.1
And yeah the things change my insurance as i put them on, but say you got the car off me, most parts you cant tell didnt come on it.
Say i brought a saxo, but it had the vtr bodykit on it, but was a 1.1, how do i know it didnt come with it, as they do east coast's etc etc, and im not so into saxo's i'd know the difference.
I think tbh, its down to you, if you see a nice one with good miles etc, go for it, but dont go cheap, as you've been proved goin cheap is a bad idea already.
Good luck with looking tho, and yeah do a quote on just my plate for her it should be like £450 female 21 etc depends on how long driving for aswel
#23: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: copey, Location: rochdalePosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:18 am ----
the_bowman wrote:
Little bit of a guide: I just bought a 52 plate 2.0hdi from a local dealer for £2900 on 65k miles with all the trim bits
i paid the same well £50 less bout 8months back, for a d turbo same milage fsh in very good nic
#24: Re: Advice required on 206 purchase Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:43 am ---- My 1.1 was poor to say the least
It had difficulty doing 70mph with 3 people in the car, great fuel consumption though compared to the GTi.
I'm intrigued by this. I like the look of the HDI 206 and I think the lower running costs are very attractive. It would seem you pay a premium for this but it looks to me as though you can make it back if you are keeping the car for > 2 years or so.
I doubled checked the quotes and she would be paying around the £1,000 mark in insurance. It may be the NCB. She has never crashed/claimed but due to uni has only amassed 2 years in her 4/5 of driving.
Thanks again guys. Very good info, in a way that I can pass on also!
The hunt continues. I don't want to rush this too much as I may as well have set fire to £1,000 6 weeks ago with the last one.
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