#1: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:47 am ---- Hey Guys
I've had a search round and i cant find a how to for a cambelt change on a 180, I'm sure there used to be one...anyway, could any one give me any pointers on how to do it or even just do a "How To" for it?
Cheers
Rich
#2: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: LilLew, Location: PlymouthPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:05 am ---- a hanyes manual will help you or a autodata cd
#3: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: E5GDM, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:29 am ----
LilLew wrote:
a hanyes manual will help you or a autodata cd
Unfortunately the Haynes manual doesn't cover the 180.
#4: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: LilLew, Location: PlymouthPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:38 am ----
E5GDM wrote:
LilLew wrote:
a hanyes manual will help you or a autodata cd
Unfortunately the Haynes manual doesn't cover the 180.
well that is abit s**t what is the difference between the gti enginge and the 180
could we not use a gti manual
#5: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Quarmbo, Location: Bristol & LeicesterPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:48 am ---- alot!
#6: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:49 am ----
Quarmbo wrote:
alot!
alot??
EDIT: Scrap that, I get it
#7: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: LilLew, Location: PlymouthPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:52 am ----
Quarmbo wrote:
alot!
ahh right ok fair enuf
well Big_rich180 when i get home ill get the instrustion from my autodata cd and post then up for you
#8: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:53 am ----
LilLew wrote:
Quarmbo wrote:
alot!
ahh right ok fair enuf
well Big_rich180 when i get home ill get the instrustion from my autodata cd and post then up for you
Cheers buddy
#9: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: LilLew, Location: PlymouthPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:54 am ---- no worryes buddy
#10: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:13 am ---- Main pug dealer only wanted 300quid. A lot less hassle
#11: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:30 am ----
mattymj wrote:
Main pug dealer only wanted 300quid. A lot less hassle
They want about £600 here, Ive just spent a S*** load on the car, i just want an idea of what i need to do.
#12: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: 206-GTi, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:33 am ---- Cambelt change is a real a**e on a 138, It will be even worse on a 180. If you have never done it before, I wouldn't say a 180 is a good starting point.
#13: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:35 am ----
206-GTi wrote:
Cambelt change is a real a**e on a 138, It will be even worse on a 180. If you have never done it before, I wouldn't say a 180 is a good starting point.
My dad is a mechanic, I just want some pointers please.
#14: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:22 am ---- I think you need to undo an engine mount to move the engine over!
#15: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:25 am ----
mattymj wrote:
I think you need to undo an engine mount to move the engine over!
I thought that might be the case, do you know if the cam cover is in 2 bits or how many screws are in it?
#16: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: 206-GTi, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:34 am ---- Have to remove the battery/box etc and move the engine over I belive.
Its such a shame the air vent on the drivers side of the engine bay is welded on, would make things alot easier if it could unscrew.
#17: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Felix., Location: south centralPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:39 am ----
206-GTi wrote:
Have to remove the battery/box etc and move the engine over I belive.
Its such a shame the air vent on the drivers side of the engine bay is welded on, would make things alot easier if it could unscrew.
you dont need to touch the battery
#18: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:42 am ---- GTi180Boy will do it for £130 labour or £270 if he supplies the parts. It is a real pig of a job Rich, you need special timing tools etc.
#19: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: LilLew, Location: PlymouthPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:58 am ----
Jamie wrote:
GTi180Boy will do it for £130 labour or £270 if he supplies the parts. It is a real pig of a job Rich, you need special timing tools etc.
I have heard very good things about him if you have never done a cambelt on a 16valve engine i would not recommend it my dad is a mechanic as well and he look at my 180 and said fcuk doing a cambelt on that it would be a pain in the a**e
#20: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: 206-GTi, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:14 am ---- Battery and box was removed when mine was done. As under it is the section which allows you to move the engine over.
#21: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, SussexPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:26 am ---- You can't do it yourself without the correct tools as IIRC it has a floating crank. My mate's a senior technician at Ford and he had to buy the specific equipment to do it... which cost more than he charged me to do it
#22: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Felix., Location: south centralPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:31 am ----
206-GTi wrote:
Battery and box was removed when mine was done. As under it is the section which allows you to move the engine over.
a trolley jack under the engine is also an option
#23: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:45 am ----
Felix. wrote:
206-GTi wrote:
Battery and box was removed when mine was done. As under it is the section which allows you to move the engine over.
a trolley jack under the engine is also an option
Thats the one i was going with
#24: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: 206-GTi, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:01 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Felix. wrote:
206-GTi wrote:
Battery and box was removed when mine was done. As under it is the section which allows you to move the engine over.
a trolley jack under the engine is also an option
Thats the one i was going with
Thats something you will defo need as well, cant balance the engine on nothing!
#25: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:02 am ----
Quarmbo wrote:
alot!
In terms of the cambelt change there is little difference.
#26: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: pastaboy, Location: Invercargill New ZealandPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:12 am ---- Am relly interested in info on setting up new cam belt in a 206 GTI 180 (ie.. cam positioning with the locking pins) and how to tension the cambelt
Thanks in advance
Marc M
pastaboy55 @ hotmail.com
#27: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: glide, Location: march , cambsPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:39 am ---- in had a 180 cambelt changed 4 weeks ago , all parts supplied by a very good local motor engineers , and it was £237, that was a bargain then
#28: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:57 am ----
LilLew wrote:
E5GDM wrote:
LilLew wrote:
a hanyes manual will help you or a autodata cd
Unfortunately the Haynes manual doesn't cover the 180.
well that is abit s**t what is the difference between the gti enginge and the 180
could we not use a gti manual
a LOT the timing is all totally different as the 180 has vvt and no keyway for the crank pulley
the haynes manual doesnt even cover the normal gti anyway
DO NOT attempt this unless you have the correct locking tools and confidence if you dont get it right you will be binning the engine!
#29: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: -SDC-, Location: DevonPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:19 am ---- DONT TRY THIS YOURSELF.
Three specalist tools, my engine was basically taken out. The belt kits are expensive, I got mine from all parts for £90 including tensioners in the ends. Just say that to they that Euro Car parts are doing them for £92 or something.
My local garage charged me £200 to do mine. And they had two guys working all day on it. Went and spoke to one of the guys about it and he just said "what a complete pain in the ass!".
#30: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: -SDC-, Location: DevonPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:19 am ----
glide wrote:
in had a 180 cambelt changed 4 weeks ago , all parts supplied by a very good local motor engineers , and it was £237, that was a bargain then
Did you walk in with a gun in your hand?
#31: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Antix, Location: WorcesterPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:29 am ----
-SDC- wrote:
DONT TRY THIS YOURSELF.
Three specalist tools, my engine was basically taken out. The belt kits are expensive, I got mine from all parts for £90 including tensioners in the ends. Just say that to they that Euro Car parts are doing them for £92 or something.
My local garage charged me £200 to do mine. And they had two guys working all day on it. Went and spoke to one of the guys about it and he just said "what a complete pain in the as*!".
ECP cambelts are 'Gates', who supply cambelts to peugeot.
I got my cambelt kit for £46 from GSF, water pump from ECP and all bits came to about £100 all-in.
Kyle [gti180boy] fitted the parts in Stafford - took about 4hrs or so, but he knows what he's doing.
Total came to about £220 fitted (from memory)
#32: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Andy180+, Location: doncaster south yorkshirePosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:56 am ---- took me about 3 and a half hours to do mine when i first got the car. not much differant from the normal gti tbh. anyone wanting one doing up yorkshire way looking at £100 plus your parts .
#33: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:46 am ---- Im looking for help to do this as well. I have the engine out the car so might as well do it just now.
It looks very different from the standard GTI as you cant remove the crank pulley like the gti. Is there a guide to offer some advice on this?
#34: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:53 am ---- As has been mentioned throughout the thread, you need special tools to do it right and cost £100's.
#35: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:49 pm ---- onI know that has been stated before but im not convinced. From working on Pugs before a Peugeot tool is a 6mm drill or a bit of welding rod. I want a guide to see what the process is as the crank pulley has no way to lock like the gti engine
#36: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:52 pm ----
imjeeves wrote:
From working on Pugs before a Peugeot tool is a 6mm drill or a bit of welding rod.
That's correct on an old TU / XU lump
This ISN'T an old TU / XU lump, either use the correct timing tools for the EW lump or risk trashing your engine.
#37: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:05 pm ----
#38: Re: 180 Cam Belt Replacement Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:45 pm ---- Thanks for that. Just confirmed what I thought I had to do. Just finished changing the belt with no issues at all.
I didnt use any fancy Peugeot tools to change it. 2 x 6mm drill bits for locking the cams and a made up bracket to lock the flywheel.
Once that was all done it was no different from any other belt change. No trickery. I had the engine out the car but to do the belt including making the flywheel lock tool took 1 hour.
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