#1: Removing the Aircon. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:11 am ---- How is it done?
Can I just take away the compressor and leave the pipes there? r does the lot got to go?
Does it matter if I cut through one of the pipes and leave the other half there?
etc.
#2: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:12 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
How is it done?
Can I just take away the compressor and leave the pipes there? r does the lot got to go?
Does it matter if I cut through one of the pipes and leave the other half there?
etc.
The aux belt wont fit if you remove the air con
#3: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: Uz, Location: No Man's LandPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:15 am ---- You can replace it for an non-aircon aux belt. You've gotta take the lot out (engine bay) and have the air con discharged correct before you start any work.
#4: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:15 am ---- What even if the belt and what it touches is left untouched?
#5: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:18 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
What even if the belt and what it touches is left untouched?
But isnt the bit the belt goes on to the compressor??
If your going to do remove the lot other wise there is no point.
#6: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:21 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
What even if the belt and what it touches is left untouched?
But isnt the bit the belt goes on to the compressor??
If your going to do remove the lot other wise there is no point.
There is when I have to find a way to get the intercooler pipes through it.
I may have to negotiate around it somehow as there is no way I can afford a new fan belt and have that fitted etc. as well as the rest of the thing done.
#7: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:27 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
What even if the belt and what it touches is left untouched?
But isnt the bit the belt goes on to the compressor??
If your going to do remove the lot other wise there is no point.
There is when I have to find a way to get the intercooler pipes through it.
I may have to negotiate around it somehow as there is no way I can afford a new fan belt and have that fitted etc. as well as the rest of the thing done.
Ah i see, i thought you were going for a 172 cup job with no aircon at all.
#8: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:32 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
tomd0801754 wrote:
What even if the belt and what it touches is left untouched?
But isnt the bit the belt goes on to the compressor??
If your going to do remove the lot other wise there is no point.
There is when I have to find a way to get the intercooler pipes through it.
I may have to negotiate around it somehow as there is no way I can afford a new fan belt and have that fitted etc. as well as the rest of the thing done.
Ah i see, i thought you were going for a 172 cup job with no aircon at all.
Nope! Haha. Its getting to the point I just want it done now! Haha. Best go back out to the car and plan a new route!
#9: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:57 am ---- So I couldn't just de-gas and remove this:
And blank off the two pipes?
#10: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:06 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
So I couldn't just de-gas and remove this:
And blank off the two pipes?
yep aslong as you have it de-gassed by an approved aircon garage its illegal to just let the gas into the atmosphere
thats only the drier and wont affect the compressor/belt at all (apart from the fact the aircon wont work obv )
personally id try another route and keep the aircon i couldnt drive a car without aircon it would do my head in
#11: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: philb121, Location: WrexhamPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:58 am ---- it is possible to fit it without losing the aircon just takes abit more work
#12: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: ali20six, Location: walesPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:04 pm ---- discharge the r134a straight in to the atmosphere,its poof gas.do want you want with that thing.the planet will be ok for another few weeks i rekon.
discharge the r134a straight in to the atmosphere,its poof gas.do want you want with that thing.the planet will be ok for another few weeks i rekon.
real mature attitude
#14: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: ali20six, Location: walesPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:14 pm ---- if your gay or a tree hugger i apologize,but the advice is sound,r134a is a safe gas for the enviroment.
#15: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: philb121, Location: WrexhamPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:22 pm ---- i let some go ages ago when i change my brother engine and there was a green cloud in the middle of the street for about 15 mins
#16: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: ali20six, Location: walesPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:39 pm ---- i had 13kg container slowly leaking in back yard for about 3 months until it emptied itself,expected a kicking from greenpeace or visit from special branch,the only paki for miles and a noxious green gas discharching from my yard. the green is only dye in case matey is worried.
if your gay or a tree hugger i apologize,but the advice is sound,r134a is a safe gas for the enviroment.
it IS NOT safe for the enviroment im a qualified air con technician i think i would know!!!
im not going to get in a petty immature arguement with someone who has nothing better to do i was just giving a honest knowledgable answer to the original question asked
this is why i cant be arsed with giving advise on this forum as there is too many people who just want to have an arguement for the sake of it
#18: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: V9977, Location: Athens, GreecePosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:33 pm ---- No r124a is NOT safe for the enviroment.
I think if you can do the job just by removing the drier unit,
its worth joining the two pipes together (properly) and run
your aircon without a drier. All it means is that you will have
to regularly (say once every two years) drain all the gas out
and replace in order to get rid of any major moisture which
accumilates over time. The drier unit if I'm not mistaken is
only there for reliability and does not perform an active function
in the gas circuit. That way you get the best of both worlds.
#19: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: ali20six, Location: walesPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:36 pm ---- Q: What new refrigerant will my service technician put in my vehicle? Are there many substitute refrigerants that are OK?
A: Automakers are producing new vehicles with R-134a, which does not deplete the ozone layer. EPA evaluates all substitutes for CFC-12 under its Significant New Alternatives Policy (SNAP) program in order to determine if they pose any risk to human health or to the environment. Currently, R-134a is the only alternative listed as acceptable, which also has been fully tested and specified by automakers in their guidelines.
" 1,1,1,2-Tetrafluoroethane, R-134a, Genetron 134a, Suva 134a or HFC-134a, is a haloalkane refrigerant with thermodynamic properties similar to R-12 (dichlorodifluoromethane), but with less ozone depletion potential. "
Less does not mean no.
" Recently, 1,1,1,2-tetrafluoroethane has been subject to use restrictions due to its contribution to climate change. In the EU, it will be banned as from 2011 in all new cars.
#21: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: ali20six, Location: walesPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:57 pm ---- nah it will be fine mate trust.
he didnt ask for page after page of your petty idiotic argueing he just asked a simple question about removing the aircon which has been answered
can a moderator please lock this thread now the original question has been answered? thankyou
#24: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: ali20six, Location: walesPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:17 am ---- ri34a replaced a much better ac gas r12 in the mid 90s because of ozone depletion,these so called qualified air con technicians will charge to collect the gas then sell it to someone else. the 206 contains 700g of r134a hardly likely to lead to destruction of the planet anytime soon.as im obviously correct in my opinion can a moderator please lock this thread now before my dummy hurtles from pram.
#25: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:36 am ---- yes r134a is better than r12 but is still harmful!!!
#26: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:39 am ---- Ok, so to derive from the arguement, I paid a tenner to get it removed. Meant that I could chill and not have to worry about green gases or whatever wonderful things it would do to the environment.
I am currently removing the black 'thing' apart from it being a girl dog due to the location of the two screws.
Thanks for anyones help.
#27: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:40 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Ok, so to derive from the arguement, I paid a tenner to get it removed. Meant that I could chill and not have to worry about green gases or whatever wonderful things it would do to the environment.
I am currently removing the black 'thing' apart from it being a girl dog due to the location of the two screws.
Thanks for anyones help.
no worries mate
#28: Re: Removing the Aircon. Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:53 am ---- Locked!
Answer has been given
I would just like to put on record that discharging aircon gases into the environment is not permitted under the law, and as shown £10 to empty it is a lot kinder to our world
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the green is only dye in case matey is worried.
apart from it being a girl dog due to the location of the two screws.
