#4: Re: engine Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:20 am ---- further more. i will get slated for this but hear me out............
i want to tune my engine i dont have stacks of money and am happy with the peugeot just want a bit more omph.
so far all i have is a custom backbox and a bmc filter on order.
what can i due to tune to get a bit more punch with out going ott..
proper opinions only please none of this buy a better car.
thanks
dan
#5: Re: engine tuning Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:22 am ---- depends on buget really.
Could try remap or superchip but you wont get much for the money.
#6: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:25 am ---- that is an option but i heard that you should really do anything else first to get the best gains?
that is an option but i heard that you should really do anything else first to get the best gains?
yes ideally you should but it depends what money you want to spend.
You could get the head ported and polished but it will cost many a ££££.
May be go old school and advance the cam timing?? I would double check you can do that though.
#9: Re: engine tuning Author: haz_XSI, Location: Sheffield/Rotherham, South YorkshirePosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:29 am ---- My ecosse manifold made noticeable improvements to the cars response when i put the foot down. I was in the same boat as you and then decided to get a Clio Sport 182
But the manifold was a great purcahse for my car
#10: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:29 am ---- ok cheers well so far my idea is to get a 421 manifold with straight center section bmc filter and thats where i run out.
money is to much of an option as im not planning on doing it all at once so have the chance to save etc.
just wondering what to do and what order to do it in?
ok cheers well so far my idea is to get a 421 manifold with straight center section bmc filter and thats where i run out.
money is to much of an option as im not planning on doing it all at once so have the chance to save etc.
just wondering what to do and what order to do it in?
in that case save up to £1500 and get head work done
#12: Re: engine tuning Author: Wiliam_morgan, Location: South WalesPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:51 am ---- new mani, stainles exhaust, attach your airfilter and some new cams and a re-map would be a nice little touch!
#13: Re: engine tuning Author: juanfernandes, Location: LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:13 am ---- I'm kinda going to hijak this, but in the hopes that it helps you, aswell as me.
I have been thinking about the same, making my car a bit quicker, and I know I will get told to get rid of the 17" which I will once I can afford to lower it.
I contacted someone about having a mani put on and I was told to be careful as after market manis, stainless steel ones, have a tenancy to crack.
Is that true?
I would also say you need a stainless steel catback.
I was also thinking about getting a sports cat, but I was told this wasnt possible because my cat is attached to the down pipe/mani(?).
I'm kinda going to hijak this, but in the hopes that it helps you, aswell as me.
I have been thinking about the same, making my car a bit quicker, and I know I will get told to get rid of the 17" which I will once I can afford to lower it.
I contacted someone about having a mani put on and I was told to be careful as after market manis, stainless steel ones, have a tenancy to crack.
Is that true?
I would also say you need a stainless steel catback.
I was also thinking about getting a sports cat, but I was told this wasnt possible because my cat is attached to the down pipe/mani(?).
Is that the same with yours?
All stainless can crack, but they dont very often if they are made right.
The cat could be on the down pipe, you could have the original cat cut off and then a sport cat put on by a custom exhaust place or by someone who can weld
I'm kinda going to hijak this, but in the hopes that it helps you, aswell as me.
I have been thinking about the same, making my car a bit quicker, and I know I will get told to get rid of the 17" which I will once I can afford to lower it.
I contacted someone about having a mani put on and I was told to be careful as after market manis, stainless steel ones, have a tenancy to crack.
Is that true?
I would also say you need a stainless steel catback.
I was also thinking about getting a sports cat, but I was told this wasnt possible because my cat is attached to the down pipe/mani(?).
Is that the same with yours?
All stainless can crack, but they dont very often if they are made right.
Ahh right, didn't know that. I was looking at the Raceland 4-2-1 Manifold.
So do you know if the cat is after the manifold or attached to it? Hoping someone will know. Its an 8v 1.4.
I was thinking (hoping) it's attached, so if I was replacing it, then I can add the sports cat anyway. Last edited by juanfernandes on Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:24 am; edited 1 time in total
I'm kinda going to hijak this, but in the hopes that it helps you, aswell as me.
I have been thinking about the same, making my car a bit quicker, and I know I will get told to get rid of the 17" which I will once I can afford to lower it.
I contacted someone about having a mani put on and I was told to be careful as after market manis, stainless steel ones, have a tenancy to crack.
Is that true?
I would also say you need a stainless steel catback.
I was also thinking about getting a sports cat, but I was told this wasnt possible because my cat is attached to the down pipe/mani(?).
Is that the same with yours?
All stainless can crack, but they dont very often if they are made right.
Ahh right, didn't know that. I was looking at the Raceland 4-2-1 Manifold.
If you think about it, if you have an aftermeerkat exhaust that will most likley be stainless, has that ever cracked?
Im not sure if it is attached the mani or not. Go under the car and check should be easy to see.
I'm kinda going to hijak this, but in the hopes that it helps you, aswell as me.
I have been thinking about the same, making my car a bit quicker, and I know I will get told to get rid of the 17" which I will once I can afford to lower it.
I contacted someone about having a mani put on and I was told to be careful as after market manis, stainless steel ones, have a tenancy to crack.
Is that true?
I would also say you need a stainless steel catback.
I was also thinking about getting a sports cat, but I was told this wasnt possible because my cat is attached to the down pipe/mani(?).
Is that the same with yours?
All stainless can crack, but they dont very often if they are made right.
Ahh right, didn't know that. I was looking at the Raceland 4-2-1 Manifold.
If you think about it, if you have an aftermeerkat exhaust that will most likley be stainless, has that ever cracked?
Im not sure if it is attached the mani or not. Go under the car and check should be easy to see.
No, but it hasn't been on there very long.
#18: Re: engine tuning Author: Felix., Location: south centralPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:27 am ---- imo Dan ... keep the 206 Sport 1.4 16V 5dr as the family car it is.
Spend your money on doing-up the Escort XR3i as your 'fun' car
imo Dan ... keep the 206 Sport 1.4 16V 5dr as the family car it is.
Spend your money on doing-up the Escort XR3i as your 'fun' car
He has an Escort XR3i. Really?
#20: Re: engine tuning Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:30 am ----
Felix. wrote:
imo Dan ... keep the 206 Sport 1.4 16V 5dr as the family car it is.
Spend your money on doing-up the Escort XR3i as your 'fun' car
#21: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:37 am ---- lol the escort has funds set aside guys dont you worry
@juan yeah the mani is on the down pipe however you can fit a saxo vts mani to yours and that would allow the cat to be under the car not on the down pipe same with a 421 mani iirc. and yes i have an XR3i
i have stainless stell backbox and the center section is next with stainless steel.
would an intercooler do anything after the cam work mani exhaust etc?
The Superprint one is alot more, but it's supposed to be worth it.
Looking at the picture of the manifolds, it looks like the cat would be moved under the car. Which would then allow me to get a sports cat or de-cat (am I allowed to say that )
#25: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:59 am ---- only in non e marked lol..... i wouldnt bother with a sports cat i havent heard any great reviews tbh.
only in non e marked lol..... i wouldnt bother with a sports cat i havent heard any great reviews tbh.
They are better flowing than normal cats and if you get pulled by VOSA you wont get bummed for having one.
#27: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:03 am ---- true just £300 for a sports cat seems alot to me
#28: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:05 am ---- further to my shout.... from wikipedia
"A DOHC 16 valve version of the TU3 with variable valve timing was introduced in 2005 with the Peugeot 307. However, this version was named ET3, possibly as a prelude for the new PSA/BMW Prince engine family."
only in non e marked lol..... i wouldnt bother with a sports cat i havent heard any great reviews tbh.
So would you just go for a standard cat or de-cat (De-cat is not legal for road use, im talking about track use!)
#30: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:08 am ---- nice cover there myself will probably be standard or de-cat (if track used)
just a bit confused atm with things for my motor as on internet it says the et3 is a vvt engine but need to confirm this.
next is striaght center section then will get a 421 i think
nice cover there myself will probably be standard or de-cat (if track used)
just a bit confused atm with things for my motor as on internet it says the et3 is a vvt engine but need to confirm this.
next is striaght center section then will get a 421 i think
For what you'll actually gain neither are worth it.
#32: Re: engine tuning Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:17 am ---- I had a decat on my N/A 206 GTi.
It sounded a bit throatier but gains were minimal or none.
IIRC a decat is only beneficial on a turbo'd car where you don't need back pressure.
#33: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:19 am ---- rich it was for the mods lol as de-cat are not road legal.
never really wanted a decat due to hassle come mot time. would standard be sufficient?
#34: Re: engine tuning Author: juanfernandes, Location: LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:37 am ---- That answers a few things then.
De-cat on my car is not worth it, I suspected that, but needed to be clarified.
nice cover there myself will probably be standard or de-cat (if track used)
just a bit confused atm with things for my motor as on internet it says the et3 is a vvt engine but need to confirm this.
next is striaght center section then will get a 421 i think
For what you'll actually gain neither are worth it.
What are you referring to? De-cat and manifold? Or sports cat.
#36: Re: engine tuning Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:47 am ---- decat i think. will probably stay with a vts cat then as ill be going for a raceland
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