#1: Macs rally 206 project..latest rolling road results 200+hp Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:36 pm ---- After the loss of the previous forum I failed to pop the old project back up again... Well we are now nearing the MSA log book stage so I thought it was about time I stuck it back on.
If any of you have any pictures from Trax or FCS feel free to post them on this thread..... for starters here is one at the workshop before the first test session
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#2: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay IPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:40 pm ---- Tell us all about the mods on the car
#3: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Jammo, Location: BrightonPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:42 pm ---- just looks like a normal gt with some graphics on it
just looks like a normal gt with some graphics on it
Didn't realise normal gt's came with those windows.
and roll-cage, harness, brembo brake etc........
#7: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:56 pm ---- Or the rollcage, or the work required to meet the MSA requirements...
#8: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Dave, Location: BirminghamPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:57 pm ---- I didn't want to confuse him. He seemed a tad slow from his first post. Back on topic though ay, lol!
#9: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:58 pm ---- This took some time
Strip shell
Weld in OMP multipoint roll cage
Paint inside shell
Rewire horrible french wiring
Refit engine and box
Send to Mtech Automotive for Throttle bodies and mapping
Fit Seats and interior
Trip to Gaz suspension for Their skills
Trip to Samurai signs for graphics
All other work done at Essex motorsport
Trip to trax to thrash the Nots off it
Trip to Essex motorsport to fit front anti roll bar
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just looks like a normal gt with some graphics on it
Want to book a track day with me
I have Really looking forward to the Rally Day
#14: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:15 pm ---- I do like that big filter. Does your use the straight Jenvey manifold?
#15: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: whits87, Location: NottinghamshirePosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:31 pm ---- looks inactlate! cant wait to see this in the flesh as i wanted to make my gt into a rally rep
just looks like a normal gt with some graphics on it
Want to book a track day with me
I have Really looking forward to the Rally Day
Great news Ape.... What you booked? I have the clubman package, 4 trips thru the stages and two special stage runs
How much of my Trax session did you watch mate. I was pleased it could stay with the scooby... had the legs on him on the straight but lost out on corner taction... good to keep with the lead pack though
just looks like a normal gt with some graphics on it
Want to book a track day with me
I have Really looking forward to the Rally Day
Great news Ape.... What you booked? I have the clubman package, 4 trips thru the stages and two special stage runs
How much of my Trax session did you watch mate. I was pleased it could stay with the scooby... had the legs on him on the straight but lost out on corner taction... good to keep with the lead pack though
I've bought an entry ticket nothing more. I'm going to sneak into yours when you're not looking
I've not seen much of your session dude, got any video links?
#20: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:11 pm ---- Righto bud, I'll come and say hi, I'll bring my Camera and HD Camcorder too
#21: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: EdCherry, Location: WiltshirePosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:27 pm ---- Will see you there, maybe at the press day too if they do it this year.
Will see you there, maybe at the press day too if they do it this year.
How long until the car hits the hay again!
We should be competing by end of the year....going to give it a test at Coombe with a front ARB this time, only a few little jobs now before logbooking.... and whatever the scrut finds wrong. Look forward to meeting you Ed.
Ape...Glad to see your thinking of me with the camera work
#23: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:36 am ---- Todays update.... Visit to Samurai signs for the window film. MSA regulations state you have to put an anti shatter film of a minimum 100 microns tick on all toughened glass. The film dont stretch too well and you know what the rear glass is like..... suffice to say its on now.
#24: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: EdCherry, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:01 pm ---- Will only be about in the morning mate, moving into my new flat in the afternoon down the road from Combe.
If the college is open you might see the 205, its floating about there at the minute.
#25: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:09 pm ---- no problem .... we got two morning stages... pop into the paddock and say hi.... would like to see the 205 too... looking good mate
#26: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Marky234, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:16 pm ---- MSA Regs state only side windows need to be covered in the film mate.
front and rear dont because they are already toughened and laminated.
MSA Regs state only side windows need to be covered in the film mate.
front and rear dont because they are already toughened and laminated.
check reg R.48.1.9 and R48.1.10 of the blue book
Check with your local scrutineer.... they want all non laminated windows filmed
#29: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Marky234, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:55 pm ---- will do. i know vw's are laminated rears guess pugs aint the same.
im goin perspex windows in the side so will only need to do the rear window then but i will check with the msa.
#30: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:07 am ---- Perspex is crap for making windows. It's far to brittle. You need polycarbonate. I have used Lexan Polycarbonate sheet in the past and the stuff is nearly indestructible. It can be cut with a jigsaw, heated and bent and doesn't shatter.
#31: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Marky234, Location: ShrewsburyPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:12 pm ---- polycarb is what i meant its just easier to say perspex lol
#32: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:57 pm ---- Todays update.... fitted the fuel sampling valve today.... still waiting for the tank guard to arrive and then thats it ready for logbooking
#33: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: spud_owen, Location: ashby de la zouchPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:31 am ---- did the structiner pic up on any other bits with your car? i dont really understand the fuel sampling value, will i need one on mine you reckon, mines competely standard, standard tank, engine etc!
#35: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:15 am ---- Nice one mate
#36: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:17 am ---- no probs wanted to see it on track to put all the talk on here into action
did the structiner pic up on any other bits with your car? i dont really understand the fuel sampling value, will i need one on mine you reckon, mines competely standard, standard tank, engine etc!
If you go down the fuel injection route you need to provide a fuel sample point. It consists of a dry-break coupling and a 300mm hose to take a sample. You will need a tank guard, mudflaps, fire extinguisher system, roll cage, safety cutout.... the list is extensive but I can list it all on here if you want or you can read the blue book and I will answer any questions it may highlight.
I have a few issues left now to complete before I can get the scrut back to log book... Tank guard (not arrived yet) and picture for logbook...easy
no probs wanted to see it on track to put all the talk on here into action
Hope to have a load to post up next week after Castle Coombe rally stages this weekend
#39: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: spud_owen, Location: ashby de la zouchPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 3:34 am ----
macj wrote:
spud_owen wrote:
did the structiner pic up on any other bits with your car? i dont really understand the fuel sampling value, will i need one on mine you reckon, mines competely standard, standard tank, engine etc!
If you go down the fuel injection route you need to provide a fuel sample point. It consists of a dry-break coupling and a 300mm hose to take a sample. You will need a tank guard, mudflaps, fire extinguisher system, roll cage, safety cutout.... the list is extensive but I can list it all on here if you want or you can read the blue book and I will answer any questions it may highlight.
I have a few issues left now to complete before I can get the scrut back to log book... Tank guard (not arrived yet) and picture for logbook...easy
Yes mate i know all that! was just wondering about the fuel break, I was refering to your post in the british rally forum, and all the un certainty about the rear spoiler, how did you get on seeing as its not a genuine pug part?
#40: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:20 pm ---- Todays update. Fitted heat shield and rose jointed drop links on the front ARB.... then promptly broke one on the test drive home from the workshop..... back to the drawing board.....
#41: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:45 pm ---- Had a great day at Castle Combe today... the pug was on song and again beat some serious cars... subaru who??? Spent most of the day on the tarmac with good results and then took to the rougher stuff and blew the 1st to second gear syncro on the first run thru the special stage.... not to bad to stop the runs though. Thanks to Ape for coming but I am sorry I didnt have time for a proper natter
went out on the tarmac later for two more runs using just 3rd, 4th and 5th, Still ate the subaru.... Last run of the day saw a brief tussle with a Civic typeR which sadly ended in him trying too hard to catch me and him rolling.... Hope the crew are ok
Final thought... very pleased with the little car and bring on the proper stuff
#42: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 4:41 pm ---- It was a great day, loads to see and watch, took around 700 photo's in the end! It was a busy day for both of us matey so no worries about being stretched for time. I've got a few pics of you on the main circuit which I'll post up soon, couldn't get any of you on the stage as they'd blocked off public access
#43: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:17 am ---- It wasnt the easiest photo opportunity I have seen on stages... but hey it was fun. Looks like you will be editing all weekend now
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#44: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:04 am ---- Where abouts did you get your tank guards from mate?? Car is coming along nicely i see!!!
#45: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:20 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
Where abouts did you get your tank guards from mate?? Car is coming along nicely i see!!!
#46: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:04 am ---- Is it the kevlar tank guard you got? What sort of price if you dont mind me asking
#47: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:34 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
Is it the kevlar tank guard you got? What sort of price if you dont mind me asking
£123.37 posted for the fibre glass option.... no need for Kevlar unless your a millionaire
#48: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:11 pm ---- Here you go Mac, sorry about the delay, been a little busy recently, still have 1000+ photo's and about an hours worth of footage to get through
I can send the originals if you want, or if the edits are ok you can have those too
#49: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: shaker, Location: AustriaPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 4:59 pm ---- great shots Ape what a difference in the ride-height when you're accelerating Macj! Suspension set for jumps?
Your a star Ape.... fantastic work.... Thanks for taking the time to do it
#54: Re: Macs rally 206 project Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:24 am ---- No worries pal, it was a brilliant day out. Looking forward to the next one
#55: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:37 am ---- It was a good test day too... I was interested to see how thwe car faired against similar cars.... was pleased when it trounced the white scooby and kept the Civic in the rear view mirror. All in all a pleasing result really.... just need to fit the LSD gearbox now to keep with the likes of that Puma
Any pictures you can send editted or otherwise would be very welcome.... and any video footage too
Finally got round to fitting the tank guard today... interesting job.
You have to drill four 25mm holes in it to clear the heatshield mount points, cut a rectangular hole to clear the H/brake cable clips and four holes for the mounting studs. Thats the easy bit, now you need several pairs of hands to hold the half full tank in place while you slip the guard over the mounting points and pop a transmission jack under it all.
Fitted the two ali door handles and started sealing the bulkhead with fireproof compound.
Next job..... scrutineer for logbooking and then it should be nearly done.
Will get some pictures up asap of latest progress.
First rally for the little Pug.... Brands Hatch Stages.
#57: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:24 pm ---- When are they matey? Are you doing any winter stages? would like to come and get some more photo's / footage
#58: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:07 pm ---- Brands Hatch stages is pencilled in for 30th Jan 2011.... would be good to see you there... its free entry and should be good for spectators
#59: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:15 pm ---- Entry submitted today for the Brands Hatch Stages rally on 30th Jan 2011.
99.99% Tarmac stages covering approx 35 stage miles on the main Indy circuit and surrounding link roads within the circuit.
Should be a good test for the little pug
#60: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: sicskate, Location: Margate, KentPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:51 pm ---- Have you got a guage on that fse?
From experience fse are really ****. They have a habit of adjusting themselves and causing fueling issues.
#61: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:01 pm ---- No gauge.... too fragile to keep on it.... pressure is tested on services
#62: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:50 pm ---- One step closer today.... The MSA scrutineer came yesterday.... he has given us the seal of approval on the car.... we are a go for Brands Hatch.... would love everybody to come along and support us Last edited by macj on Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:47 pm; edited 3 times in total
#63: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: Dillon, Location: KentPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:58 pm ---- Brands hatch 30/01/11 i will be there!! Last edited by Dillon on Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:05 pm; edited 1 time in total
#64: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 2:59 pm ---- Nice one Mac, what are the dates for Brands? Will see if we can get a meet together for it
#65: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:30 am ----
Mikey2uk wrote:
Nice one Mac, what are the dates for Brands? Will see if we can get a meet together for it
Its 30/01/11.... first cars on stage at around 10am.... entry is free to spectators.... there are some top names in UK rallying signed up
#66: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:15 pm ---- This arrived today from the engineer...... yummy
Engine is getting very naughty now
#67: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:30 pm ---- Beautiful I really need to sort my clutch and flywheel out. What plate and cover are you using?
#68: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:31 pm ---- I am a Helix dealer so it may be that.... meantime I have run the standard unit on two track sessions with no slippage... Let me know if you want a flywheel
#69: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:45 pm ---- I might do, it still has a cheapo motorfactors clutch kit in with 20k on it. I'm doing the diff this weekend and I'm torn what to do really. I feel like I should just whip the box off and fit a decent clutch setup. how much can you do a helix sport cover and paddle for? is it sheaper or more expensive having the plate sprung?
You should do a kit with the flywheel too
#70: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:21 am ---- Its around the £350 mark with bearing
#71: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:56 am ---- Hi macj.
Can you give me price for Helix Clutch and Flywheel kit.
#72: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:12 am ----
Schumi wrote:
Hi macj.
Can you give me price for Helix Clutch and Flywheel kit.
Hello my friend.... The flywheels are on an exchange basis so can you post a flywheel to me for exchange.... if this is possible I can do you a kit.
race/rally cover plate 60-4935 £228.58.... or
sport cover plate 60-4938 £194.49
Is this price is final ? Did your clutch shaking from first pull. Like gti180 chronic problem.
I have not included any shipping in these prices, However I have tried to find a dealer nearer to you but have not found one. I would be able to get a weight from Helix for the kit and then calculate the shipping. I may also be able to get discount on this price when they get a confirmation of order.
I would think that the juddering issue would be solved with this kit, I found it was caused by distortion in the drive plate materials or broken springs.
#75: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:49 pm ---- Juddering problem source is weak releasing bear. I think this full kit will solve my problem. I'm waiting your shipping cost news.
#76: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:43 am ---- Quick setback to proceedings.... The MSA want the rear spoiler removed and the front number plate changed..... 3 hours with a craft knife and a hacksaw blade and the spoiler is off
Just need to get a plate made up and we shall try again.
#77: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:11 pm ---- Take it off and put it back on, they dont care after log booking
Unless you get an ar*ewipe of a scruitenier?
#78: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:16 pm ---- That would be my luck.... get a jobsworth
#79: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:46 pm ---- What was the reason for the spoiler to come off?
#80: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:01 pm ---- not a homologated part......
#81: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:01 am ----
macj wrote:
not a homologated part......
blatentely a jobs worth then its hardly gonna make a difference to the standard one is it
i know how you feel when i used to compete in off roading in my old range rover used to get hassle because the rear bumper caps wernt the right spec for that year (the earlier ones were slightly shorter ) and other lame things like that really does pee you off after putting all the hard work into building it when someones so petty about little details
#82: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:00 pm ---- Your not kidding..... got to paint the top of the tailgate now
#83: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:58 pm ---- Are you running it in homlogated group N?
#84: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:29 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
Are you running it in homlogated group N?
No.... You need original wiring loom and interior carpets and headlining to say the least for GN.
#85: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:56 am ---- In that case the spoiler should not mater. U can run what ever arts you want
#86: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:35 am ---- Just spoke to my old man bout this. He said that he only once saw this happen and it was because out outer bodyshell was deemed to no longer be homoloigated. Look at Andy Burtons car tho. It doesnt seem very standard to me and he certainly has more that spoiler different than standard
#87: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:43 am ---- I have a note from MSA... they sent the homologation papers and are refusing to logbook without its removal....I am running out of time before first event so its come off for now. And thats for groupA and B
#88: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:56 pm ----
imjeeves wrote:
Look at Andy Burtons car tho. It doesnt seem very standard to me and he certainly has more that spoiler different than standard
Andy can't use his car after this year though so a spoiler is the least of his worries.
As for you Mac! don't you read the blue book?
46.3.5. Replica copies of manufacturers homologated
body parts/aerodynamic devices will not be accepted.
It is s**t that you have to remove it, but rules are rules
#89: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:06 pm ---- You know the score...... try till your told
#90: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:30 pm ---- Yeah, not like you're the first person to try and bend the rules (cough cough Toyota)
#91: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:30 pm ---- Well done on 1000 posts btw haha
#92: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:13 pm ---- What size of throttle body trumpets are you using mate?
#93: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:37 pm ---- 90mm rings a bell.... I not looked at my trumpets lately
#94: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:46 pm ---- Did you have to move the radiator out the way for that length?
#95: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:27 am ---- Yes.... I fitted a toyota corolla rad, lowered the Xmember and made new top brackets and with no A/C to worry about you get a few inches forward too
#96: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:04 am ---- Bit more progress today.... stripped out a spare gearbox and fitted the quaife ATB LSD and bought a better ratio CWP which means the car will now have a final drive ratio of 4.176:1.... should give it a little more zip out of the corners
#97: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:07 pm ---- What did you get that CWP out of? and what torque did you tighten the CWP bolts up to?
When I took mine out they were proper f****d. The threads were almost stripped and when I ordered more they have now been superseded. Couldn't find any proper info so took them to 105Nm
#98: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:19 pm ---- I have a 4.4 cwp mate if you are looking for one?
#99: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:31 pm ---- What's the standard one? I need to spend a bit more time with mine as it is now and see how I feel it needs improving.
#100: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:42 pm ----
st3v3n wrote:
What did you get that CWP out of? and what torque did you tighten the CWP bolts up to?
When I took mine out they were proper f****d. The threads were almost stripped and when I ordered more they have now been superseded. Couldn't find any proper info so took them to 105Nm
Its out of a Citroen Berlingo 1.6... as for the bolts, They always look stripped when you take em out, I usually take them up to 100Nm with studlock
#101: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:45 pm ----
imjeeves wrote:
I have a 4.4 cwp mate if you are looking for one?
Price mate.... would be good for gravel spec
#102: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:48 pm ----
st3v3n wrote:
What's the standard one? I need to spend a bit more time with mine as it is now and see how I feel it needs improving.
Standard is 3.8:1 approx I think
#103: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:02 pm ---- Yeh standard is 3.8 which has really poor acceleration I found. We have a 4.89 fitted in our car and use a 4.4 if it is really high speed tarmac as we would be on the limiter all the time otherwise.
4,4 cwp is £150
#104: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:43 am ---- What max speed do you get with the 4.4? Mine currently bounces off the limiter at 130 in 5th lol
#105: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:20 am ---- I usually gear for 100mph on the straight on the soft limiter.... most clerks of the course try to aim at 90mph maximum and will whack a chicane in the longer straights to acheive this. Not sure what you would get with a 4.4 but it may be close if you have your limiter set at 7000rpm on 600mm wheels
#106: Re: Macs rally 206 project (Combe pictures by Ape) Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:46 am ---- MSA Competition log book arrived today
#107: Re: Macs rally 206 project...now MSA logbooked Author: tofy92, Location: potters barPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:50 am ---- awesome well done mac did you have to saw the spoiler in the end?
#108: Re: Macs rally 206 project...now MSA logbooked Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:09 pm ---- How long did it take mate? Needing mine done for 20th of Feb for the first event
How long did it take mate? Needing mine done for 20th of Feb for the first event
Bearing in mind the hiccup with number plate and spoiler and the christmas break..... The scrutineer came on the 11th December, The MSA sent the logbook back for alterations on the 23rd December, revised photos were posted back on the 2nd January and the logbook arrived today (13th).... Good luck with yours mate
awesome well done mac did you have to saw the spoiler in the end?
Yes..... it had to come off
well thats a shame to here mac as it did suit the car imo
#112: Re: Macs rally 206 project...now MSA logbooked Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex!Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:56 pm ---- Good news there pal, roll on 30th!
#113: Re: Macs rally 206 project...now MSA logbooked Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:57 pm ---- Congrats Mac looking forard to the 30th now
#114: Re: Macs rally 206 project...now MSA logbooked Author: st3v3n, Location: Liverpool Drives: 206 GTiPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:32 pm ---- I would have liked to come along to speccy but I'm out at Ty Croes that day on an OPL
#115: Re: Macs rally 206 project...now MSA logbooked Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:56 am ----
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nothing more. I'm going to sneak into yours when you're not looking 
