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Macs rally 206 project..latest rolling road results 200+hp
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#301: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. Guess the HP poll Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:52 am
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Yes... the next rally is on 24th September at Woodbridge airfield, sadly because it ministry land its closed to spectators.... but I might try to sneak an in-car cam in there Wink

#302: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. Guess the HP poll Author: Mr_Cellexe, Location: Hertfordshire PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:34 pm
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MOD you say? OOo...some of us are lucky enough to have access Wink

tbf, knowing these places you could get a camcorder in there easy enough. besides, anything they dont want you to see will be hidden Wink

#303: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. Guess the HP poll Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:00 am
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Mr_Cellexe wrote:
MOD you say? OOo...some of us are lucky enough to have access Wink

tbf, knowing these places you could get a camcorder in there easy enough. besides, anything they dont want you to see will be hidden Wink

Pop along if you have the time.... would be good especially if you are good with a camera Wink

#304: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:25 am
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The new engine is finally finished with a few alterations to the original plan.
1. Gas flowed head with 5 angle valve seats, uprated valve springs and welded up EGR port.
2 Port matched manifold with modifications to fit the 45mm T/B`s and improve air velocity.
3. Forged "H" section steel conrods and HC forged Wossner 12.5:1CR pistons.
4.Polished crankshaft and lightened flywheel all fully balanced.
5. Heavy duty race spec bearings.
6. Uprated oil pump.

The engine was dummy built to check the CR and it sits nicely at 12.2:1. The whole engine is now just over a full rally spec and the head has been opened up considerably with full knife edging in the ports. and Charlie from CTM Performance Engineering who has done all the work thinks it will be a monster engine.
As for the power figures, he has made a prediction...... but I cant tell you what that is or it will spoil the surprise when it comes off the rollers Twisted Evil

You still have time to get your quesses in before the RR session Wink

#305: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: Seabook PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:33 am
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i am optimistic as always; still think it can hit at least 210bhp; if not 220.

can't coment on torque as i don't know how petrol engine work Laughing

can't

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#306: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:35 am
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As you have had a guess I will PM you with the prediction. Sworn to secrecy OK Wink

#307: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: Seabook PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:37 am
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macj wrote:
As you have had a guess I will PM you with the prediction. Sworn to secrecy OK Wink
Nom Nom Droolage!

any pics btw?

#308: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:44 am
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I will post up pictures tomorrow when I get it back to the workshop Cool

The new figure for the rev limiter has been raised from 7200rpm to 7800rpm soft limiter and 8000 hard limiter..... thats scary stuff Shocked

#309: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / Turkey PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:59 pm
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macj wrote:
5. Heavy duty race spec bearings.
6. Uprated oil pump.

Can you give any detail or brand for that? And is your pistons 2 ring ?

And my guess about RR. If you still in standart cams i think 205 hp with a good cam you will see 225 hp Smile

#310: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:15 am
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Schumi wrote:
macj wrote:
5. Heavy duty race spec bearings.
6. Uprated oil pump.

Can you give any detail or brand for that? And is your pistons 2 ring ?

And my guess about RR. If you still in standart cams i think 205 hp with a good cam you will see 225 hp Smile

The end shells are made by Mahle but ACL are the same quality
The pistons are 3 ring

 


The oil pump has an uprated relief spring fitted which is available through CTM Performance Engineering

#311: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec & Pictures Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:32 am
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Pictures...... as you can see after Edwards comments on welding heads.... the EGR just remains blanked off

 

 

 

 

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#312: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec & Pictures Author: furryhobnob, Location: Nuneaton PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:35 am
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Looks awesome mac

#313: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec & Pictures Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:36 am
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really tastey looking Very Happy

Thumbs Up

#314: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec & Pictures Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:40 am
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The attention to detail is what makes all the other "would be" tuners look like ameteurs. He has even changed the manifold to T/B studs as he felt they were not long enough.

#315: Re: Macs rally 206 project.. New engine spec & Pictures Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:58 am
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Has the block been painted? I always wonder if shot blasting an engine prior to strip down would finish it off like new.

Even the bottom pulley looks nice. Bolts look new too. I want a new pulley as there is a bit of corrosion on mine. £55 for a new one...

Is your rear rocker cover breather connected to anything? I see the later EW engines with the tall rocker covers have a breather on the inlet cam cover too. Any rally or touring car EW engine seem to have a breather on the front cover. Do you think having one would be an advantage?



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