#1: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: heyziq, Location: MalaysiaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:34 am ---- comment? izit good idea ..anyone here hav done this?
#2: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:35 am ---- Why....................
Just buy a good car.
#3: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Teebag, Location: exhall, bedworth, coventryPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:45 am ---- there was a guy in denmark that did this iirc..... if your going to do it strap a turbo to it aswell, you'll also need the running gear off a civic aswell.
#4: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:47 am ---- just put a 180 engine in there, it will be faster and easier to do and probably cheaper, B16 engines are over rated appart for reliability.
#5: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:32 am ---- go for a b16b will beat a 180 and will be one of a kind
#6: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:35 am ----
Guyrichie wrote:
go for a b16b will beat a 180 and will be one of a kind
Teebag wrote:
there was a guy in denmark that did this iirc..... if your going to do it strap a turbo to it aswell, you'll also need the running gear off a civic aswell.
#7: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:55 am ----
Guyrichie wrote:
go for a b16b will beat a 180 and will be one of a kind
Here we go.....how do you work that out?
#8: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:39 pm ---- The dudes in Denmark was a b16a not a b
And well bcos a 180 is running what 160 max a b16b is about 185
A standard ek9 will beat a standard 180 all day long
#9: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, FifePosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:44 pm ---- Anything's possible providing you have the budget/knowledge to do what you want to do.
#10: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:37 pm ----
Guyrichie wrote:
The dudes in Denmark was a b16a not a b
And well bcos a 180 is running what 160 max a b16b is about 185
A standard ek9 will beat a standard 180 all day long
who run a standard engine nowadays?
and if you are talking about tuning potential i can't see a 1.6 engine could beat a 2.0 engine
#11: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:44 pm ---- If your talking about tuning then search for turbod or supercharged b16b I very much dowt a charged 180 engine will beat it .
It's not all about engine size
#12: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:48 pm ----
Guyrichie wrote:
If your talking about tuning then search for turbod or supercharged b16b I very much dowt a charged 180 engine will beat it .
and i think is a waste to turbo charge B16b as well, and even waste to put silly amount of hp into a FWD lol
#13: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:00 pm ---- that is impressive but i still think a b16b turbo will beat it
#14: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:02 pm ---- it probley is a waste but the op was asking about droping one is his car not turboin it
i was just sayin a b16b in a 206 will b quicker than a 180 engine in it ?
#15: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:16 pm ----
Guyrichie wrote:
it probley is a waste but the op was asking about droping one is his car not turboin it
i was just sayin a b16b in a 206 will b quicker than a 180 engine in it ?
that is true
#16: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: heyziq, Location: MalaysiaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:34 pm ---- only honda can have such this powerful engine back days...but fuel consumption :c
#17: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Teebag, Location: exhall, bedworth, coventryPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:13 pm ----
Guyrichie wrote:
The dudes in Denmark was a b16a not a b
And well bcos a 180 is running what 160 max a b16b is about 185
A standard ek9 will beat a standard 180 all day long
my mistake..... DO IT THEN!!!!!
#18: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:27 pm ---- if the engine you guys are on about is from a type r it would rape a 180 if it was in a 206, my mate has a type r and it p**ses on my gt and the civic is alot heavier too so it wouldnt even be a contest
#19: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:27 pm ---- plus 180s have like 160 civics are 200
#20: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:46 pm ----
no_offences wrote:
if the engine you guys are on about is from a type r it would rape a 180 if it was in a 206, my mate has a type r and it p**ses on my gt and the civic is alot heavier too so it wouldnt even be a contest
depends on which civic are you looking at.
EK9 definitely weight less than a 206 and could easily cut the weight below 1 ton. New civic are just big fat chick.....
#21: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:11 pm ---- Yeah we talkin 6th gen ek shape back when honda made decent engines the ek9 type rs are 185 bhp b16b engine
#22: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Iain, Location: Aberdeen, ScotlandPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:16 pm ----
no_offences wrote:
if the engine you guys are on about is from a type r it would rape a 180 if it was in a 206, my mate has a type r and it p**ses on my gt and the civic is alot heavier too so it wouldnt even be a contest
Nah that's the EP3 Civic, they're talkin about the EK9 I think
#23: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:17 pm ---- well im on about a 2003 type r the best one, its deffo heavy then my 206 in my opinion its longer, chunkier feels better built more solid, but it could be lighter i have no figures but from looks and feel id say the civic is heavy the old golf is much heavy then the 206 and thats the same size, anyway that engine has 200bhp and is a millioon times better then a 180 engine
#24: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:24 pm ---- no mate thats a k-series engine a k20 yeah a 2003 ep3 will be heaver
no we are on about the b-series engines much better imo
and if you think the ep civics are good you should really try s ek9 so so much better lighter better handling and most probly faster ???
#25: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:28 pm ---- dunno i just have an obsession for them after mate give me a drive, gettin to the high revs throws tyou back iin your seat, i was gunna get the special edition one with the red recaros but like a t**t i forgot id get insurance raped so i kept with 206 for time being, ill always keep the gt even when i finally get my civic
#26: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Guyrichie, Location: Workington, CumbriaPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:31 pm ---- yeah the ep3 are amazing cars but really you should try a ek9 ull be even more impressed
#27: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Jamie, Location: Ring y0Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:36 pm ---- V Tack is nothing special, it's a good idea in theory but have fun finding your torque.
I've been in Type R's and wasn't impressed. The 180 is a better car (and I'm not even fond of them any more!).
Quoting peak BHP is pointless when you don't go near it until 7k RPM...
#28: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:34 pm ----
Jamie wrote:
V Tack is nothing special, it's a good idea in theory but have fun finding your torque.
I've been in Type R's and wasn't impressed. The 180 is a better car (and I'm not even fond of them any more!).
Quoting peak BHP is pointless when you don't go near it until 7k RPM...
it downs to what is the main usage of the car, trackdat ftw!
#29: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:37 pm ---- All conjecture and Blether... Pub ammo at best
#30: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:41 pm ---- i love 180s and i love type rs, i just love the idea of that engine in a smaller car, its different too.
#31: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: T_bandery, Location: East londonPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:34 pm ---- What you guys need is a Mazda 6 MPS in your life,
A dyno of the MPS
#32: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:22 am ----
Jamie wrote:
V Tack is nothing special, it's a good idea in theory but have fun finding your torque.
I've been in Type R's and wasn't impressed. The 180 is a better car (and I'm not even fond of them any more!).
Quoting peak BHP is pointless when you don't go near it until 7k RPM...
My thoughts exactly, as well as the 206 being a hevier car than the EK9 so the crappy 115ft/ib of torque wont do anything, do it right first time, get a k20 from an import EP3.....or........just buy an EP3 because its going to cost you as much to it.
EDIT: and as we have been talking figures i guess people have seen the EK9 0-60 as 5.something seconds, which is why most peole think they are fast, but in actuall fact this figure cam from an EK9 race car on race fuel so it is a bulls**t figure anyway.
#33: Re: B16A engine on 206, what do u guys think Author: actionman, Location: HuddersfieldPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:17 pm ---- the b16a is belter of an engine!! if i was doing a transplant i'd pick it over a 180 engine anyday!! more reliable & you can keep them high in the VTEC zone all day long without so much of a grumble from the engine!!
I used to have a mk2 CRX VTEC 150bhp standard. Used to average about 35mpg with mixed driving. By the time I was done it with it it was 236bhp & the car weight lowered to a tad over 900kg. No FI neither, was pure NA tuning!! It'd happily rev at over 8k rpm without overheating etc
As for crappy torque figures, well, the whole point to VTEC & Type R engines is to have them well up in the VTEC zone for maximum fun If you were slow/shy with the throttle or gearing then you'd drop out of VTEC & probably get left behind by whatever you were playing with
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