#151: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / TurkeyPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:18 am ---- ESP still work after converting wire to cable pedal conversion. But ASR didnt work.
#152: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:26 am ---- Yeah because everyone I know has put ITBs on thier cars, and the functionality of them is what makes and breaks the deal.
#153: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:33 am ---- *Grabs pop corn*
Come on peoples, defend your beloved GTI
Handbags at 12 paces though please
#154: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:36 am ---- I do the T/B kit for £1550+vat with everything you need to fit stand-alone or piggy-back..... add another 1k for fitting and RR set-up
The reason I wouldnt do a 180 conversion for road use is the loss of the functions like VVT and all the driving cheats like traction control. If you want T/B conversion on a 180 keep it for trackdays and fast road use and I can junk the VVT.
To achieve the 76HP you would need to spend money like Edward. you will need the cams headwork and the exhaust. On the plus side you could fit 45mm T/B`s rather than the 42mm that Ed has chosen.
One thing is for sure... If you want good advise on this issue it pays to listen to the likes of him who have the experience in it
#155: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Lee., Location: Blackwood, South WalesPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:56 am ---- What I don't get though is this:
You've spent £7k on 70odd bhp. The 180 already has half of this as standard over the 138. So on that basis you should be prepared to spend £3.5k more on a 180?
(By the way this is no dig at you Edward, I have alot of respect for what you've done to your car, I'm just using your figures as a reference)
#156: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:00 pm ---- Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
#157: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:03 pm ----
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
Yes it is.... would give you about 180HP and 160ft/lb torque on standard cams, bit more with a de-cat
#158: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:06 pm ----
macj wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
Yes it is.... would give you about 180HP and 160ft/lb torque on standard cams, bit more with a de-cat
What are prices for a 1.6 16v Engine
And is it everything you need to get going minus the ECU??
#159: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:08 pm ---- That price included the ECU.... identical to the rally car
The Newman cams are a good buy on here.... see the post www.206info.co.uk/Foru...20060.html Last edited by macj on Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:55 pm; edited 1 time in total
#160: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Antix, Location: WorcesterPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:37 pm ----
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
ASR is the anti-skid function
ESP is electronic stability programme function (which also activates the hazard lights automatically)
#161: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:44 pm ----
Lee. wrote:
You've spent £7k on 70odd bhp. The 180 already has half of this as standard over the 138. So on that basis you should be prepared to spend £3.5k more on a 180?
I'm not quite sure what you are saying but as a standard car if I only wanted 180 bhp then I would buy the 180 (when I got my 138 the 180 had only just been launched).
But if I knew I wanted to end up with over 200bhp I'd start with the 138. No point paying for all the GTi 180 extras when they'll just be thrown away.
But then if you also wanted to buy a 138 and tune it to GTi 180 power levels then that would be more interesting to own than a GTi 180.
#162: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:50 pm ----
Antix wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
ASR is the anti-skid function
ESP is electronic stability programme function (which also activates the hazard lights automatically)
How would changine to cable effect anti skid fucntion tho
#163: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:06 pm ----
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Antix wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
ASR is the anti-skid function
ESP is electronic stability programme function (which also activates the hazard lights automatically)
How would changine to cable effect anti skid fucntion tho
The traction control system used on the 206 needs a fly by wire throttle to work. Last edited by MrBSI on Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:13 pm; edited 1 time in total
#164: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;)Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:12 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Antix wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
ASR is the anti-skid function
ESP is electronic stability programme function (which also activates the hazard lights automatically)
How would changine to cable effect anti skid fucntion tho
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The traction control system used on the 206 needs a fly by wire throttle to work.
I dont own a 206 Wonder if the C2 is the same tho :/
#165: Re: GTI 138 VS GTI 180 Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:14 pm ----
Mattie-VTs wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Antix wrote:
Mattie-VTs wrote:
Whats ASR??
And is that a price for the GTi mac?? and using Jenvey??
ASR is the anti-skid function
ESP is electronic stability programme function (which also activates the hazard lights automatically)
How would changine to cable effect anti skid fucntion tho
]
The traction control system used on the 206 needs a fly by wire throttle to work.
I dont own a 206 Wonder if the C2 is the same tho :/
Have a look, its a good bet it is seeing as its all the same PSA parts bin engineering
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