#1: 180 in the snow Author: tyrone81, Location: LanarkshirePosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:38 pm ---- Ive not been at my work the past 2 days. There is no grip at all on this car, steering is mega light, gust like driving on ice. i'm actually scared i hit a kirb.My gf has been stuck in it already a couple of weeks ago and i picked car up and drove it back it felt all over the place.
Lots of cars have been driving past my house, Especially my mate across the road he has a 1.8 civic and has no problems at all, even pulling a way in first, I'm struggling in second. The front tyres are only weeks old.
How does everyone else feel? To me it can only be the tyres as thats all between you and the road?
#2: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:40 pm ---- wide, low profile summer tyre don't work in snow
#3: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:40 pm ---- Probably s**t tyres and putting too much revs on when setting off.
But TBH you should be driving in this weather anyway.
#4: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in frontPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:40 pm ---- Ice is ice. Still, low profiles are less grippy than normal tyres apparently.
#5: Re: 180 in the snow Author: macj, Location: EssexPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:43 pm ---- narrow snow tyres on steel rims should sort your problem but not your street cred
#6: Re: 180 in the snow Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:44 pm ---- ESP switched on or off?
#7: Re: 180 in the snow Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:45 pm ---- tyre pressures?
#8: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Lee., Location: Blackwood, South WalesPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:48 pm ---- Haven't had any problems to be honest, and it's being a hell of a lot better than my old Fezza! Saying that, that was a 1.2 with 17's lol Still I thought the 180 was actually going okay.
#9: Re: 180 in the snow Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:03 pm ---- same here my ESP is on and when it starts to spin it cuts all power even on a hill i havnt had a problem in the snow yet,
is your ESP working? as the wheels start to lose traction a warning triangle will flash on the dash
#10: Re: 180 in the snow Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:07 pm ---- Last edited by MrBSI on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:02 pm; edited 1 time in total
#11: Re: 180 in the snow Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:20 pm ---- it's all about the tyres. i see you're in lanarkshire so you'll have 'proper' snow that will be around for weeks and will quickly be hard packed ice.
it doesn't matter if your current tyres are newish or not - winter tyres have different tread patterns with a shoulder that cuts into snow. they are also made from a different rubber compound to summer tyres.
if you're that scared and *have* to go out then get a set of pug steels and some M&S tyres!!
there's a bloke on ebay called scot-tyres not far from you, he might have something of use?
#12: Re: 180 in the snow Author: tyrone81, Location: LanarkshirePosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:46 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
ESP switched on or off?
On, i'd be sitting still with it off.lol.
#13: Re: 180 in the snow Author: tyrone81, Location: LanarkshirePosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:51 pm ----
skard wrote:
it's all about the tyres. i see you're in lanarkshire so you'll have 'proper' snow that will be around for weeks and will quickly be hard packed ice.
it doesn't matter if your current tyres are newish or not - winter tyres have different tread patterns with a shoulder that cuts into snow. they are also made from a different rubber compound to summer tyres.
if you're that scared and *have* to go out then get a set of pug steels and some M&S tyres!!
there's a bloke on ebay called scot-tyres not far from you, he might have something of use?
Ah so winter and summer tyres are different, could be the problem. I looked at my mates civic and his pattern did look chunkier to mine.
#14: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:10 pm ----
a proper winter tyre has the above logo on the tyre
#15: Re: 180 in the snow Author: MNARAA, Location: In a traffic jamPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:18 pm ---- You could have it a lot worse. Thought it was hilarious last night following a rwd beemer out of the office car park. All over the place (or going nowhere) with half an inch of snow.
#16: Re: 180 in the snow Author: MNARAA, Location: In a traffic jamPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:20 pm ----
Seabook wrote:
a proper winter tyre has the above logo on the tyre
<Posh voice>
This is not just any snow tyre. Its an M&S snow tyre.
</posh voice>
#17: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, SussexPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:20 pm ---- I've had no trouble with mine, feels remarkably stable actually, much better than my 306.
#18: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, SussexPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:24 pm ----
MNARAA wrote:
Seabook wrote:
a proper winter tyre has the above logo on the tyre
<Posh voice>
This is not just any snow tyre. Its an M&S snow tyre.
</posh voice>
LOL
#19: Re: 180 in the snow Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, CornwallPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:47 pm ---- Mine's been a bit nervous, but I'm not really used to snow driving.
I span around 90 degrees to the road whilst coming off a roundabout the first day though. Not a great start.
It was probably my own fault, but I managed to correct it ok. Since then I've just been careful whenever I see ice, and prepared to start countersteering! lol.
I don't have the cash to be spending out on tyres when it's only for a week or so round here. Being extra careful will have to do!
#20: Re: 180 in the snow Author: nellyhaggis, Location: SheffieldPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 5:50 pm ---- I dont dare take my 206 out in the snow.
I pulled up on a slight down hill and the bugger didnt even want to set off again.
#21: Re: 180 in the snow Author: eldraW, Location: Newcastle-Upon-TynePosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:19 am ---- Snow tyres are certainly the way forward but make sure to change back when the winter is gone as snow tyres arn't happy in just normal wet conditions... My Mam had some on her Evo 6 and in the summer wetness she used to loose the back end a few times due to these. She locks the car away for winter now and only uses it in the summer with normal tyres, much better responce lol.
#22: Re: 180 in the snow Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:26 pm ---- You want WINTER tyres not M+S tyres. No way bad enough conditions for what is basically a rally event tyre, hahaha.
I run these in the winter on the BMW. Perfect. Drives on sheet ice with no problems.
Not cheap though. Wheels + Tyres = about £1000. Second year of use though now, so now I call it 500 a year
Will probably last another 3-4 years (Assuming I keep to BMWs.. Otherwise I'd have to get new alloys in the same J rating in order to keep using the tyres on my next car.. )
#23: Re: 180 in the snow Author: t110jim, Location: invernessPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:38 pm ---- Could not agree more with mega these tyres are superb have them fitted on my wife 207 gt this is second winter, the differece is incredible going from perelli pzero neros that just spun on damp roads to the level of grip from these tyres. great choice
#24: Re: 180 in the snow Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:30 pm ----
MEGA wrote:
I run these in the winter on the BMW. Perfect. Drives on sheet ice with no problems.
are those tyres not M&S marked though?
#25: Re: 180 in the snow Author: t110jim, Location: invernessPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:33 pm ---- They are but are the new breed of winter tyres not out and out mud and snow tyres
#26: Re: 180 in the snow Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:36 pm ---- i doubt most offroad M&S tyres would fit in the wheel arch of a standard car
in fairness though, i have conti ts770 and dunlop winter sport m3's on my golf and have got everywhere with them i needed to. even coming off my drive i have almost a foot of churned up snow to clamber over and it gets there safely.
#27: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:54 pm ---- quatrac 3 has M&S symbol but they are normal all season tyre for passenger car, not those SUV off-road tyre
#28: Re: 180 in the snow Author: MEGA, Location: Harrow, LondonPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:59 pm ---- The Wintrac Xtreme is their "fast road" winter tyre. It is not M+S marked.
Basically the ones to the left of the picture and higher up.. Snowtracs in particular: Are M+S rated. The Wintrac Xtreme is their fastest winter profile which is all we need in the UK.
It is also the best for when it's not snowing so is a good winter tyre I run Wintrac Xtremes on the BM for 3 months a year, then switch back to Falken FK-452s.
They are ZR rated too so can go up to 180 mph I only need 150 or so But you won't get that in an M+S tyre which is usually only H or Y rated (126mph I think? )
#29: Re: 180 in the snow Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:31 pm ---- i haven't seen anyone doing over 35mph in a week!
#30: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Lewis1304, Location: NuneatonPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:20 pm ---- I have goodyear eagle f1s and dont have much problem as long as i shift b4 1.5k revs it wont spin too much. try pulling off in 2nd or 3rd if u cant grip
#31: Re: 180 in the snow Author: mattymj, Location: NorfolkPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:15 pm ---- It's all about learning to control the pedals, one off one on, i can drive my 180 in the snow where people are getting stuck and sail on by. Just go down a quiet road and get some practice.
#32: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Martynmofo, Location: York!Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:53 pm ---- im having no problems what so ever with my gti in the snow!
wish i hadnt kept my vortex's on
#33: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:44 am ---- All about clutch control mate, they're easy to drive in the snow, just take your time.
#34: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:26 am ---- I wouldn't even think of taking my 206 out in the snow, with the splitter on it would just act like a snowplow and get stuck. At over a foot deep in Sheffield, I'm surprised anyone would take a 206 out in this
#35: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Lee., Location: Blackwood, South WalesPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:28 am ---- They are easy, still wish I could afford a set of winter alloys to put on lol if only to protect the Vortex's.
#36: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:35 am ----
Lee. wrote:
They are easy, still wish I could afford a set of winter alloys to put on lol if only to protect the Vortex's.
Agreed.
Jay, im in worksop and we have the same amount of snow as in sheffield, if you get on the mainroads its fine, we did have to dig our street out though
#37: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:47 am ---- Lol the news said the A57 was bad. Gotta go to Meadowhall later for work, got a day off yesterday though, thank f*** for the late shifts Last edited by Jay794 on Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:09 am; edited 1 time in total
#38: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:02 am ----
Jay794 wrote:
Lol the news said the A57 was bad. Gotta go to Meadowhall later for work, got a day off yesterday though, that f*** for the late shifts
A57 at our end has collapsed where it goes over a golf corse lol.
#39: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:09 am ---- Lol fun times
#40: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:50 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Jay794 wrote:
Lol the news said the A57 was bad. Gotta go to Meadowhall later for work, got a day off yesterday though, that f*** for the late shifts
A57 at our end has collapsed where it goes over a golf corse lol.
It collapsed the other day. They only just built it to get the PGA back
#41: Re: 180 in the snow Author: mjsroofing, Location: south walesPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:45 am ---- my 1.4 hdi was fine in snow, even my misses was driving wround in it.
like i told the misses you just got to take you time softly softly with the pedals and keep it going, tyres help but its the driving that makes the difference.
#42: Re: 180 in the snow Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:50 am ----
Lee wrote:
Big_Rich180 wrote:
Jay794 wrote:
Lol the news said the A57 was bad. Gotta go to Meadowhall later for work, got a day off yesterday though, that f*** for the late shifts
A57 at our end has collapsed where it goes over a golf corse lol.
It collapsed the other day. They only just built it to get the PGA back
Turns out it was a lie about it collapsing, despite it being on the news
#43: Re: 180 in the snow Author: frenchfrog40, Location: MaidstonePosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:06 am ---- i couldnt get to work for 4 days last week when the snow was bad, other people managed to drive in but the had "boring cars with sensible tyres" hehe.
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