#1: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:41 am ---- Hi
I cant check my oil as the dipstick is always covered in thin mud like oil . Which I thought was due to the dip stick seal breaking . Today I opened the oil cap and inside the cap it was full of yellow/white sludge also there was a little steam coming out of the oil filler hole . What does this mean? Ive heard this happens when the head gasket goes but my cars running fine.
#2: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: copey, Location: rochdalePosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:42 am ---- my old 106 used to start fine and run fine with a blown gasket aswell
#3: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:42 am ---- yes, head gasket blow.
you can also check if you got less coolant and the spark plug as well
#4: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:49 am ---- as said.... head gasket.
#5: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:52 am ---- Is it always there or just when the engine is still cold from a short journey?
#6: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:11 am ---- FFS ! ! . . . Nah its like this all the time . Just serviced it last month the plugs were white so running lean and hot . Its started getting hotter than normal . The coolant is a very dark green . And just noticed when idling the exhaust quietly pops now and again missfiring maybe?
So what should I do . Even though it seems fine I guess it would be foolish to ignore it?
#7: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: Seabook, Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:17 am ---- i would get it fixed soon. new gasket+skim head
#8: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:34 am ---- Ok thanks for the fast replys guys !
#9: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:45 am ----
Seabook wrote:
i would get it fixed soon. new gasket+skim head
Don't forget the new timing belt kit while its apart
#10: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:33 am ---- Is it losing coolant mate?
#11: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:35 am ---- Just been quoted £600 for new gasket preasure testing and new timing belt and water pump . . How does that sound?
#12: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:40 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
Is it losing coolant mate?
#13: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: matcarlin24, Location: RedditchPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:41 am ----
jamie_206 wrote:
Just been quoted £600 for new gasket preasure testing and new timing belt and water pump . . How does that sound?
Is that with the head being skimmed aswell?
#14: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: copey, Location: rochdalePosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:49 am ---- if i remember rightly, on my 106, it cost me around £350 thats with it being skimmed and al that to....how ever, i have no idea if there's a difference how much more labour is involved from engine to engine
#15: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:50 am ---- It dosent seem to be losing coolant but its hard to tell with the usless levels on the header .
And yea thats with it being skimmed.
#16: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: matcarlin24, Location: RedditchPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:51 am ---- £350 is good tbf on my punto it went 3 times only got it fixed twice third time i got my 206
but that cost me at least £500 each time
It dosent seem to be losing coolant but its hard to tell with the usless levels on the header .
And yea thats with it being skimmed.
id get it looked at by an independant garage mate, one you trust as it sound like something other than the h/gasket to me.
Ok a good garage is hard to find though lol . I thought it was because of the loose dipstick but seems to be alot of gunk just for that .
#19: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: panason1c, Location: SomersetPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:32 am ---- Get some more quotes, £600 sounds top heavy to me.............i'd have thought £500 max would be about right.
#20: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:26 am ---- Ok il shop arround cheers
#21: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: xXx_LIL_P_xXx, Location: Chatham, KentPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:32 am ---- i was quoted about £550 for my head gasket replacement so yeah would say that was about right! mind you that was about year and half a go and she is still going fine without it being done (touch wood) x
#22: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: mjsroofing, Location: south walesPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:37 am ---- thats pricey, try using engine flush and changing oil, if you havnt changed oil for long time the oil can look like that from condensation, if you not losing coolant change your oil.
head gasket £250.00
with cam belt extra £150.00
#23: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:43 am ----
mjsroofing wrote:
thats pricey, try using engine flush and changing oil, if you havnt changed oil for long time the oil can look like that from condensation, if you not losing coolant change your oil.
head gasket £250.00
with cam belt extra £150.00
i changed my oil last month soooo i didnt flush i though .
#24: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: mjsroofing, Location: south walesPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:30 am ---- head gasket then if you changed the oil only a month ago,
#25: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: boozeman, Location: manchesterPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:58 am ---- my GT had this problem last winter solved the problem, with a 600 mile round trip and a full oil change and flush, to get rid of any emulsified oil. and since then no problems
#26: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:22 am ---- You can proberbly put a new engine in it with less miles and would still cost less
#27: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:48 am ---- Would a compresion test with one of those gauges that screw into the spark plug holes be able to diagnose if the headgaskets gone? . . . If so has anyone done a compresion test before?
#28: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:49 am ---- Would a compresion test with one of those gauges that screw into the spark plug holes be able to diagnose if the headgaskets gone? . . . If so has anyone done a compresion test before?
#29: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:51 am ---- i had one done, diidnt tell me much info, i was told that there was no compression in cylinder 4. they said they dont know what it is for sure without taking it apart
#30: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: mjsroofing, Location: south walesPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:58 am ---- it will tell you if you got a fault with the head, if there is a fault you will defo have to take the head off, try it mate
#31: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: jamie_206, Location: DoncasterPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:01 am ---- Jus looked in the haynes and it says (when doing a compresion test) low compresion on the 1st stroke which does not build up pressure during sucsessive strokes indicates leaking valves or blown head gasket .
Then goes on to say . A low reading from 2 adjacent cylinders is almost certainly due to the head gasket having blown between them .
So im going to try get it preasure tested and let you guys know the results.
#32: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: panason1c, Location: SomersetPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:12 am ---- A compression test doesnt always tell the whole story......there is a varying range of 'symptoms' when a HG fails, all depending at what point the gasket has failed at..............if the HG has failed at a point between the water jacket and an oilway (as sounds the case for your car) you will get 'oily coolant' and 'mayonaise' in the engine but the compression readings will show as 'normal' due to no leakage of compression. Last edited by panason1c on Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:15 am; edited 1 time in total
#33: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:14 am ---- what if a compression test failed on 1 cylinder yet the oil and coolant etc looked fine?
#34: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: panason1c, Location: SomersetPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:17 am ----
DJ- wrote:
what if a compression test failed on 1 cylinder yet the oil and coolant etc looked fine?
That would most likely be a valve that has failed (burnt out) or a valve spring broken. Last edited by panason1c on Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:18 am; edited 1 time in total
#35: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:17 am ----
panason1c wrote:
DJ- wrote:
what if a compression test failed on 1 cylinder yet the oil and coolant etc looked fine?
That would most likely be a valve that has failed (burnt out)
oww
#36: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: Seabook, Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:21 am ----
DJ- wrote:
panason1c wrote:
DJ- wrote:
what if a compression test failed on 1 cylinder yet the oil and coolant etc looked fine?
That would most likely be a valve that has failed (burnt out)
oww
i though you just bought your car?
#37: Re: Milky/muddy engine oil please help! Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:22 am ----
Seabook wrote:
DJ- wrote:
panason1c wrote:
DJ- wrote:
what if a compression test failed on 1 cylinder yet the oil and coolant etc looked fine?
That would most likely be a valve that has failed (burnt out)
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i didnt flush i though .
