#1: non starter (another one!!) Author: TieBreakGreen, Location: EpworthPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:35 am ---- Running fine last night, parked up, Wife went to start it up this morning engine turns but it just doesn't fire.
When I turn the key now the 'engine diagnostic' light doesn't come on and I can't hear the fuel pump priming up as it usually would. Now this morning is the first time we have used the wifes key, could it have messed up the immobiliser somehow (don't think it's been used for a long while). No difference with either key now.
Any ideas?
Andrew.
PS - used to working on a car with a nice simple carb plonked on top of the engine. Developing a real Luddite streak now
#2: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:36 am ---- the key shouldnt make a diff if its the same key juast your wifes one as the transponder will be coded just the same.
#3: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: Zoomy, Location: The NetherlandsPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:41 am ---- Because of the absent sound of the fuelpump I'd check the fusebox first...
#4: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: qwert, Location: ukPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:10 am ---- Check the fuel inertia button as well. The key should work fine, as it is coded
#5: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: TieBreakGreen, Location: EpworthPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:35 am ---- Thanks for the responses folks.
OK fuses all intact, both underbonnet and in cabin, inertia cutoff reset is the red rubber button behind the N/S strut under the bonnet right? Tried that still no joy.
The lack of engine diag. light when I first turn the key is worrying me, usually comes on for a few seconds then goes off but now nothing..
any new cunning theories??
#6: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: TieBreakGreen, Location: EpworthPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:49 am ---- stupid car!!!
#7: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: Zoomy, Location: The NetherlandsPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:57 am ---- ...Tried a BSI reset...?
#8: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:41 am ---- Fuel pump might be knackered then, take it out and test it.
#9: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: Rob2859, Location: HalifaxPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:42 am ---- there is a little cap on the end of the coil pack. remove it and start it and fuel should come out. if it does its nothing to do with the pump but if it is you can be sure its fuel starved.
#10: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: TieBreakGreen, Location: EpworthPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:18 am ---- looks like some sort of dodgy electrics somewhere. changed the crankshaft sensor just on the offchance but no joy, pulled the coilpack off and had a plug out to check for spark (none) no fuel coming through either, got a code reader and couldn't even get the ECU to connect to that to start with. The code reader suddenly got a connection when I started to take the first bolt off the coil pack but no error codes showing.
Put everything back together and started to check if there was any power to the plug going into the coil and there wasn't. then suddenly there was and the orange diag. light was back on the dash. plugged it back in sharpish and it started
took it round the block a couple of times and it's fine, got back and sat outside for a bit with the engine running and suddenly the engine just stopped again. went to restart and same again, no light, no pump, turns but no go. Then tried again, light's back, pump primes and we're away again.
not filled with confidence.
earth? ignition switch? immobiliser? wet in the electrics?
who knows?
#11: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: TieBreakGreen, Location: EpworthPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:34 pm ---- electrics have gone haywire, looks good to start but now when I remove the key the clock/temp display won't go off
#12: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: qwert, Location: ukPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:59 pm ---- Dying bsi?
#13: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: TieBreakGreen, Location: EpworthPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:22 pm ----
qwert wrote:
Dying bsi?
what I'm worried about. Don't do electronics The clock display seems to be a side effect of the new head unit so that's not a worry at the minute and the car's run fine today. Current school of thought is a random short in something somewhere the BSI runs but a nightmare to track down if that's the case. Just have to wait and see if it does it again.
#14: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: chrisd, Location: Northern IrelandPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:01 pm ---- Checked batt conections an earths? Also batt condition
#15: Re: non starter (another one!!) Author: Spandelly, Location: ManchesterPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:07 am ---- the keys dont use a fixed code they use a rolling code transponder. I had a renault in that would start sometimes and not others. The ecu was not rolling the codes so you had to turn the key to position 2 then off and keep repeating this till the codes had done a full cycle and the light went off and it would start. its probably the bsi try a reset and if that doesnt work try turning the key on and off a few times and if it works its a bsi or ecu knackered
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