#1: Reverse Light Author: Macalac, Location: Chandlers FordPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:17 pm ---- Hi,
I have a 206 s 1.4, 2004 registered and have a problem with the reversing lights not working.
I have checked the bulbs and fuse. I have also disconnected the connector from the revesing light switch on the gearbox. I have 12v to one of the pine and have checked the continuity of the switch with the gears in reverse and nuetral and all is well there.
Looking at the haynes wiring diagram the circuit goes through the pasenger fuse box/BSI.
I am slightly hampered in my fault finding at the moment as I broke my arm a couple of weeks ago and it is V dificult working with one hand.
I managed to remove the black 16pin connector and have checked that I have continuity between the output of the passenger fuse box/BSI (pin 7) and the light cluster and there is continuity, so my thoughts are that the problem may be in the fuse box/BSI unit.
My next step is to try to remove the green connector and check for a voltage into the unit.
My question is though, does anybody have information on the internals of the BSI unit. a circuit diagram would be very useful. I do not really understand why the reversing light circuit really needs to pass through the unit at all as it is a simple light circuit with a switch and a fuse in line.
#2: Re: Reverse Light Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:35 pm ---- did you tried to connect the 2 wires together,to make an open circuit,and see if the reverse light goes on or not??,because maybe the switch itself is faulty.
by the way,sorry to hear about your arm,hope you get well soon.
#3: Re: Reverse Light Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:37 pm ---- The BSI controls all the electrics within the car, its the ECM for them.
Have you ran a positive feed to the reverse bulbs them selves to rule out a earthing problem?
#4: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:43 am ----
Timon2210 wrote:
did you tried to connect the 2 wires together,to make an open circuit,and see if the reverse light goes on or not??,because maybe the switch itself is faulty.
That's the first thing to try
Bet the local Peugeot / Citroen dealer has a switch in stock
#5: Re: Reverse Light Author: dugaldgunn, Location: ShetlandPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:35 pm ---- I am having the same problem but it is not the switch, bulb or fuse. How did you get on? Any ideas for me?
#6: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:08 pm ----
dugaldgunn wrote:
I am having the same problem but it is not the switch, bulb or fuse. How did you get on? Any ideas for me?
You need to give us a clue to what year of 206 you have as there 2 totaly different electrical systems used on the 206 & they each have there own issues when it comes to fault finding.
#7: Re: Reverse Light Author: dugaldgunn, Location: ShetlandPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:32 pm ---- It's a '04 1.4hdi. Had another look this evening and now know the bulbs, switch and the fuse in the engine box are fine but still no joy in getting it working. Any ideas?
#8: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:48 pm ---- You have shorted out the white 2 pin connector on the reverse light switch & then turned the ignition on?
You have checked the bulbs are ok with a multimeter & making good contact with the sprung terminal in the bulb holder?
F1 10 amp fuse in the BM34 fusebox checked with a multimeter?
If your 100% sure all the above is ok then its scan time with Peugeot Planet as the BSI unit controls the reversing lights.
#9: Re: Reverse Light Author: dugaldgunn, Location: ShetlandPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:09 pm ---- Thanks for that. Yes I have tried all of the above so I think it must be something to do with the BSI unit.
I have tried to reboot my BSI unit but to no avail...I also had a problem last year when I lost my key fob. I got a new one and got the chip reprogrammed but I couldn't get the remote locking to program using the manufacturers instructions. I presume this is controlled by the BSI unit as well. Could these two issues point to a faulty BSI? Because I couldn't programme the remote locking the reboot of the BSI doesn't seem to work either.
#10: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:48 pm ----
dugaldgunn wrote:
I lost my key fob. I got a new one and got the chip reprogrammed but I couldn't get the remote locking to program using the manufacturers instructions.
BSI controls the remote locking.
Is it the correct type remote fob for the car?
Choice of 2, they look exactly the same from the outside BUT there not interchangeable.
A replacement remote fob can ONLY be programed to the car with diagnostic kit.
The manuafcturers instructions you followed where to resynce a fob after a battery change / battery disconnection, you CANNOT code a replacement fob using those instructions
#11: Re: Reverse Light Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:55 pm ---- The circuit board should be reprogrammable to the central locking, its just the transponder that isn't as far as I know. Not 100% tho
#12: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:57 pm ----
Lee wrote:
The circuit board should be reprogrammable to the central locking, its just the transponder that isn't as far as I know. Not 100% tho
Sounds like he already has a replacement remote fob & coded the transponder ok but not the remote fob
#13: Re: Reverse Light Author: macca1411, Location: Westhoughton, LancashirePosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:20 pm ---- Have you worked out your price for travelling to him yet Lee? Even you doing it would be cheaper than the dealership.
#14: Re: Reverse Light Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:23 pm ---- I don't have a boat
#15: Re: Reverse Light Author: dugaldgunn, Location: ShetlandPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:56 pm ---- Thanks everyone. Yeah I did buy a new fob but took it to a friendly garage that coded the transponder chip for me. It is just the remote locking part of it that doesn't work. As far as i am aware the remote locking bit can be programmed at home but I am not sure if I have the correct fob or not. I actually bought two from different places as i was not sure if the first one was faulty. I didn't realise that there was two different types. How can you tell the difference if you want to order one.
As far as the reverse light is concerned I have decided i might just bypass the BSI unit and rewire it by splicing into a different ignition controlled live wire. I don't mind if the BSI unit is faulty if the only damage caused is a dodgy reverse light and the remote locking not working. I can live with that.
If it get's to the point I need to take it to a peugeot dealer i will just send you the boat fare!
#16: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:03 pm ----
dugaldgunn wrote:
As far as i am aware the remote locking bit can be programmed at home
NOT without the correct diagnostic equipment it cant
To code a new / replacement fob to the car it has to be hooked up to Peugeot Planet or other suitable diag kit.
The only thing an owner can do is RESYNC a previously working fob that stops working after a battery change / battery disconnection
I repeat, you CANNOT code a replacement / new fob with the resync instructions, your wasting your time even attempting it
#17: Re: Reverse Light Author: dugaldgunn, Location: ShetlandPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:27 pm ---- Ok cheers for that. I shall make a trip to my friendly mechanic again and see if we can sort that out.
Appreciate all your help. Thank you.
Dugald
#18: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:57 pm ---- You got + 12 volts with the ignition on at the white 2 pin plug on the reverse light switch connector plug?
You then tested at the rear cluster? ? ?
Its such a simple circuit & ive never heard of a BSI failure of the reverse light circuit yet.
#19: Re: Reverse Light Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:23 pm ---- Don't think the reverse light even uses the BSI
#20: Re: Reverse Light Author: Andy180+, Location: doncaster south yorkshirePosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:26 pm ---- dont think it does, hell maybe wrong but not found bsi and reverse light linked before
#21: Re: Reverse Light Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:28 pm ---- Just thought it was an ignition fuse > switch > bulb > earth
CBA to look up the wiring diagram
#22: Re: Reverse Light Author: Andy180+, Location: doncaster south yorkshirePosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:31 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Just thought it was an ignition fuse > switch > bulb > earth
CBA to look up the wiring diagram
like it
#23: Re: Reverse Light Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:27 am ----
Lee wrote:
Don't think the reverse light even uses the BSI
BSI must get a signal from reverse light switch, how else would the rear wiper in reverse function work
#24: Re: Reverse Light Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:04 am ---- Might just act like a switch input on a relay.
I'll have a look at the diagram when I get two mins
#25: Re: Reverse Light Author: PugGti180, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:01 pm ---- I recently had another engine put in my 206 gti 180 and now the reverse lights don't work as well as the auto rear wipe linked when in reverse. Have tried and tested all the above mentioned but still nothing. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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