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#1: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: montysingh, Location: birmingham PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:30 am
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Hi All

Please help me, i got this weird issue of losing coolant. basically i went to brazil for 15 days and parked my car at friend's house when i came back and drove the car for 100 miles and reached home. i found the passenger side mat was proper drenched with water and my car was overheating on the way back, so i checked the coolant and it was gone low from absolutely max level.

Any ideas as i am panicking that this has something to do with the brain gasket of car.

help

still panicking

and by the way the car is 1.4 hdi diesel 206

#2: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Werdnal, Location: Cornwall, UK PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:35 am
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I would guess heater matrix gone - its like a mini radiator behind the dash that gives the heater its warmth from the water circulating in the engine. I had this on a previous car (Fiesta). If the water is inside the car then thats the most likely. Obviously, don't drive it too far without coolant. My uncle did mine, and managed to bypass the heater temporarily so I could use the car until he could do the work. Not sure of this possible on a 206 - others might advise.

PS By "Brain gasket" I think you mean HEAD gasket? Don't think so in this case as that wouldn't let water inside the car, unless the water inside is coming from somewhere else and not connected with the coolant loss.

#3: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:06 am
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Werdnal wrote:
I would guess heater matrix gone - its like a mini radiator behind the dash that gives the heater its warmth from the water circulating in the engine. I had this on a previous car (Fiesta). If the water is inside the car then thats the most likely. Obviously, don't drive it too far without coolant. My uncle did mine, and managed to bypass the heater temporarily so I could use the car until he could do the work. Not sure of this possible on a 206 - others might advise.

PS By "Brain gasket" I think you mean HEAD gasket? Don't think so in this case as that wouldn't let water inside the car, unless the water inside is coming from somewhere else and not connected with the coolant loss.

This.

It will be the heater matrix, a bit of a pig of a job to change.

#4: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Jayde, Location: Brighton PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:39 am
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Mine cost £375 and that was with a friend who works in a garage doing it with some discount =/
He'd never changed one in a 206 before, and he said it was a complete b***h of a job. It's in a really awkward place. He almost recommended someone else because he found out that some models have to be de-gased and re-gased, and wasn't sure he'd be able to. Unfortunately I'm not sure if yours would have to have that done, but basically.. it isnt cheap!! Sorry dude!!

#5: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: bertt, Location: chester PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:49 am
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always pray its not the heater matrix on a peugeot Rolling Eyes

#6: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Danny., Location: Peterborough PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:23 am
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Heater matrix isnt as hard as people say..

I got a quote for £400 so i decided would do it myself..

Took me and Liam-Hutch 1 hour 30 mins to take the one out of his old car and then the one out of my car and his old one in mine... No problems..
I had to remove the glove box but that was it.

I will happily change one for £300

#7: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: DJ-, Location: UK PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:28 am
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Danny224 wrote:
Heater matrix isnt as hard as people say..

I got a quote for £400 so i decided would do it myself..

Took me and Liam-Hutch 1 hour 30 mins to take the one out of his old car and then the one out of my car and his old one in mine... No problems..
I had to remove the glove box but that was it.

I will happily change one for £300

What She Said If you managed to do it after having no clue then im sure others can Laughing Razz

Danny224 wrote:
Well im now waiting for peugeot to get back to me... I would fit it my self but i have no idea how.....

#8: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Danny., Location: Peterborough PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:30 am
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DJ- wrote:
Danny224 wrote:
Heater matrix isnt as hard as people say..

I got a quote for £400 so i decided would do it myself..

Took me and Liam-Hutch 1 hour 30 mins to take the one out of his old car and then the one out of my car and his old one in mine... No problems..
I had to remove the glove box but that was it.

I will happily change one for £300

What She Said If you managed to do it after having no clue then im sure others can Laughing Razz

Danny224 wrote:
Well im now waiting for peugeot to get back to me... I would fit it my self but i have no idea how.....

Studied the Haynes manual Wink

Its honestly not that hard Smile

#9: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: DJ-, Location: UK PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:32 am
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haha im just messing. glad you got it sorted in the end!

#10: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Danny., Location: Peterborough PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:33 am
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DJ- wrote:
haha im just messing. glad you got it sorted in the end!

Yea i have other problems now..

3/4 of my Thermostat is missing :L
And needs a new idle control valve :L

#11: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Werdnal, Location: Cornwall, UK PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:39 am
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Just curious, re: Heater matrix change, does it make any more difficult if you have air con?

#12: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 8:43 am
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Werdnal wrote:
Just curious, re: Heater matrix change, does it make any more difficult if you have air con?

No. They are all the same.

A GTi one fits a 1.6/1.4 Quicksilver.

Just 2 pipes like on all models.

#13: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Liam-HuTcH, Location: Peterborough PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:11 am
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Danny224 wrote:
Heater matrix isnt as hard as people say..

I got a quote for £400 so i decided would do it myself..

Took me and Liam-Hutch 1 hour 30 mins to take the one out of his old car and then the one out of my car and his old one in mine... No problems..
I had to remove the glove box but that was it.

I will happily change one for £300

exactly what Danny has previously said it is a quite simple job and not as hard as people may think, its just having the bottle to turn round and say ok, ill give it a go, haynes manual is a good start as myself and danny managed to remove mine and remove his and fit a new one in approx 1 1/2 hours maximum.

you would get quoted that kind of money because people say its a dash out job, i can assure you it can be done without with a bit of brute force and still not making any damage to the car in the process

#14: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: montysingh, Location: birmingham PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:01 am
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hi guys

Many thanks for your advice and help, really appreciate it

atleast i know what the probable cause for the issue is and the garage man wont be able to con me hopefully

thanks guys this forum is the besttttttttttttttttt

#15: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: stevedude, Location: aldershot PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:51 pm
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is this the right one?
cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peugeot...35af425023

there is a lot on ebay, ive never seen one so no idea what it looks like, the link shows what looks like a mini rad?

or would this work ?

cgi.ebay.co.uk/Radiato...3a61837678

#16: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: elcamino, Location: home! PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:43 am
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Before you replace the heater matrix check two o rings where the pipes are connected to the heater matrix radiator in passenger foot wel. Smile

#17: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: luvpug, Location: England PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:46 am
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changing the heater matrix is best left to a peugeot mechanic, I got 3 quotes from good standard garages who wanted from £250 - £400! as they basically didnt know what to do they told me they'd take out the entire dash etc. BUT took it to Peugeot and they did the job in less than 2 hours (without moving dash board) for £240 all in!
Leave it to Peugeot for a heater matrix - trust me!

Oh and if your driving without (or loosing) coolant - say goodbye to your headgasket!

#18: Re: Coolant gone and water under passenger side mat Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:52 am
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luvpug wrote:
changing the heater matrix is best left to a peugeot mechanic, I got 3 quotes from good standard garages who wanted from £250 - £400! as they basically didnt know what to do they told me they'd take out the entire dash etc. BUT took it to Peugeot and they did the job in less than 2 hours (without moving dash board) for £240 all in!
Leave it to Peugeot for a heater matrix - trust me!

Oh and if your driving without (or loosing) coolant - say goodbye to your headgasket!

Why does a Peugeot Mechanic have to do it? Confused

If you feel confident enough to do it yourself, go for it. Speed comes with experience Wink



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