#1: engine swap Author: perry89, Location: thurrock essexPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:49 am ---- hey all, did a lil search but couldnt find what i was looking for. i have a 1.4 8v 206 and the head gasket has gone. im wondering.. would it be possible to put a 1.6 16v engine in it? if so is there anything in partiular o should know? any help appreciated.
cheers.
#2: Re: engine swap Author: C-MAN, Location: RedditchPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:51 am ---- It is still posible that your engine might be ok, and might only need a new head gasket.
Im sure you can put a 1.6 8v engine straight in, not sure about the 16v though
#3: Re: engine swap Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New ForestPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:51 am ---- Getting the head gasket replaced & the head skimmed will be cheaper than an engine swap & more insurance.
#4: Re: engine swap Author: perry89, Location: thurrock essexPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:53 am ---- the mechanic said the head gaskets gone and wants 400 to do repair work, but i can get an engine cheaper lol, wouldnt mind a 1.6 8v but would prefer 16v if possible
#5: Re: engine swap Author: C-MAN, Location: RedditchPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:57 am ---- Do the head gasket yourself, its not a big job.
And take it to a metal worker to get it skimmed, it posible it might not even need to be skimmed.
It wont cost that much at all if you do it like this
#6: Re: engine swap Author: perry89, Location: thurrock essexPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:01 am ---- ooh na lol im not that mechanically minded lol, i have some one to do the job for me but would like abit more power and dont mind the extra cost. so if i were to get a 1.6 16v engine what is needed to successfully complete the job?
#7: Re: engine swap Author: Bassline_Toad, Location: Chester, UKPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:03 am ---- Gotta love this forum. So many other forums are like "Put a turbo on it!!!" - people on here actully make sense
It'd make more sense to get your head gasket done, not change it.
Think about if you ever want to sell it, someone's viewing it, it's meant to be a 1.4 and it's been chnged to a 1.6. Personally, I'd see that as dodgy and walk away.
Personal opinion and all that
If you wanna do it, Do it
#8: Re: engine swap Author: hamed206, Location: EgyptPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:04 am ---- Agree with above answer, you can just skim the head and replace the head gasket, if you are unable to perform the job by yourself and this job will cost you more pounds than a new engine, go ahead with the new engine, but you will need the following to swap with 16v 1.6 engine:
1-Gear box and some other mechanical things like suspension components, brakes...etc.
2-ECU with all wiring & new BSI too, the new ECY is amust for the 1.6 & 16v engines as you can't operate you current ECU with the 16v engines unless you had the 1.4 16v engine.
By another mean, get the front half of a crashed 206 1.6 16v and take all possible parts from it then swap to your 206!!.
#9: Re: engine swap Author: C-MAN, Location: RedditchPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:04 am ---- I would'not have a clue, it would more than likely be cheaper all round to buy a 1.6 16v pug than to change the engine. Insurance will sky rocket.
#10: Re: engine swap Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:06 am ---- what year is your current 206?
#11: Re: engine swap Author: Jordan_xsi, Location: IpswichPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:08 am ---- Its going to be very expensive, youd be better off fixing it then selling the car and buying an XSi mate. If you want to do an engine swap its pretty much pointless going from 1.4 to 1.6, the power youd gain for your money is not worth it at all.
#12: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:15 am ---- i was thinkin of changing my 1.6 16v to a mi16
#13: Re: engine swap Author: hamed206, Location: EgyptPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:19 am ----
XSIcheeseman wrote:
i was thinkin of changing my 1.6 16v to a mi16
I wouldn't recommend such a big engine like this to be fitted in a small car like 206, the engine is bigger in size too and will require some modifications to be fitted correctly in your 206.
#14: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:31 am ---- iknow someone has done it on here before .. i want my pug to be faster but i don't want to get a new one to much money sweat tears nd blood spent on this lol
#15: Re: engine swap Author: Jordan_xsi, Location: IpswichPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:37 am ----
XSIcheeseman wrote:
iknow someone has done it on here before .. i want my pug to be faster but i don't want to get a new one to much money sweat tears nd blood spent on this lol
I swear you were trying to sell it for a while around november time ?
#16: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:38 am ---- yeah i was but i cant sell it lol i kept turning things down for it lol i turned a BMW 325 down , im sellin my current car instead for 2,500
#17: Re: engine swap Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:39 am ---- cheeseman
if your serious about keeping your pug for a project search for white noise.
now that is a pug that is cum worthy!
#18: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:40 am ---- yeah thts what inspired me lol
#19: Re: engine swap Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:41 am ---- the 1.6 8 valve is a easy swap if your is a early 206
didnt someone on here put a saxo vtr engine stright into his 1.4 and even ran it on the 1.4 ecu to he got a unlocked ecu?
im sure on the older 8v,s it plug and play the looms are the same you will just need the 1.6 ecu so it will need to be unlocked or coded to you car
you can pick a 8v 1600 engine up for £150 so would be cheaper than the £400 to fix your head gasket but also you could fix your 1.4 for that depending if you was going to change the cambelt why the head is off
#20: Re: engine swap Author: Jordan_xsi, Location: IpswichPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:46 am ----
XSIcheeseman wrote:
yeah i was but i cant sell it lol i kept turning things down for it lol i turned a BMW 325 down , im sellin my current car instead for 2,500
You want more power but you turned down a 325
#21: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:47 am ---- yup because i don't want to get rid of my pug lol im addicted to it lol
#22: Re: engine swap Author: Jordan_xsi, Location: IpswichPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:56 am ---- The XSi is indeed very good and i love mine but i fancy id swap it for a 325 lol.
*Waits for the people who think 206's are the best car ever made to moan*
#23: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:57 am ---- 206's are best car ever made:)
#24: Re: engine swap Author: Jordan_xsi, Location: IpswichPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:03 am ----
XSIcheeseman wrote:
206's are best car ever made:)
#25: Re: engine swap Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: OrpingtonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:04 am ---- HAHA lol
#26: Re: engine swap Author: T_bandery, Location: East londonPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:32 am ---- 1.6 8v will go in straight
If you want to put the 16v in then you'll need to change the wiring loom as well which is a pain in the bum!
#27: Re: engine swap Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:52 am ---- Why would you put an old Mi16 in a 206?
#28: Re: engine swap Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:56 am ----
G. wrote:
Why would you put an old Mi16 in a 206?
very good strong engines thats why 155bhp out the tin with good tuning outputs
#29: Re: engine swap Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:05 am ----
G. wrote:
Why would you put an old Mi16 in a 206?
I'm pretty sure pug did it for the 206 wrc
With the right head mods you can get about 225bhp with ITB's
Thats enough to make me want one
#30: Re: engine swap Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:14 am ----
XSIcheeseman wrote:
i was thinkin of changing my 1.6 16v to a mi16
MI16 engine is so old hat that Peugeot dont even stock a lot of the mechanical parts anymore for the XU lumps
#31: Re: engine swap Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:14 am ---- and they pretty much all need a rebuild! Must be nearly 20 years since they were fitted to a car from new.
#32: Re: engine swap Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:39 am ---- If I had the engine out for a coversion like this I would be considering a rebuild anyway.
but yeah, they are getting on a bit now
#33: Re: engine swap Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:44 am ----
Edward wrote:
and they pretty much all need a rebuild! Must be nearly 20 years since they were fitted to a car from new.
Pretty much, 1994 was the last year of the 405 MI 16 / Le Man's.
The engine was pretty crap even back then
The original 1.9 all alloy 160 bhp engine from the phase one MI 16 was a lot better
#34: Re: engine swap Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales.Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:45 am ---- yeah, the 1905 alloy block is the one to go for
#35: Re: engine swap Author: perry89, Location: thurrock essexPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:00 pm ---- wow cant believe how many replies have been posted since this morning, cheers for all your input and suggestions people. i think ill scrap the 1.6 16v option and either get the gasket fixed or or just buy another 1.4 engine, saves alot of time and hassle lol. i do plan to keep this car for a Looooong time because im going to attempt to make a wrc'ish track day car (but without all the proper decals) i think this pic is photoshop'd but this is what i want to achive www.calamari-tuning.co...C_1024.jpg
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