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#1: Engine blocks Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:22 pm
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Hi all

Im looking at getting a new engine for my car as the signs are leading to a possible cracked cylinder liner and heard that for the hassle of changing this, i might aswell get another engine for my car.

Currently i have a tu3jp kfx engine (1.4 8v), after looking on ebay etc ive seen both kfw and kfx engines for sale. If im right in thinking the KFW engine has the cat in the manifold along with 2 lambda sensors. Where as the kfx engine has an under car cat and just one lambda sensor in the front down pipe. Other than this what are the differences in the engines, different sensors, locations number of sensors etc?

Thanks in advance for replies and advice given.

#2: Re: Engine blocks Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:23 pm
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I reckon you should buy the 1.6 8v lump Wink

#3: Re: Engine blocks Author: Brian, Location: VVT Land, Fife PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:28 pm
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Mattie-VTS wrote:
I reckon you should buy the 1.6 8v lump Wink

..because it's worth the hassle for such a great engine???? Confused

#4: Re: Engine blocks Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:29 pm
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Mattie-VTS wrote:
I reckon you should buy the 1.6 8v lump Wink

Its an option but then would it not complicate matters with the ecu, imobilisers etc? Along with having to notify dvla and insurance company meaning my premium going up.

#5: Re: Engine blocks Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:29 pm
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Brian wrote:
Mattie-VTS wrote:
I reckon you should buy the 1.6 8v lump Wink

..because it's worth the hassle for such a great engine???? Confused

because its straight swap and better than he has now Razz

#6: Re: Engine blocks Author: T_bandery, Location: East london PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:34 pm
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1.6 8v, straight fit, couple of hours job and use the same ecu but get it re-mapped Wink

#7: Re: Engine blocks Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:42 pm
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T_bandery wrote:
1.6 8v, straight fit, couple of hours job and use the same ecu but get it re-mapped Wink

Ideally i would skip the hassle of having to get the ecu remapped, and just swap for another 1.4 8v engine. Im not fussed about doing it to gain more power as the reduced mpg would outway the gains atm.

Although if one came up for the right price i would probably go for it.

#8: Re: Engine blocks Author: T_bandery, Location: East london PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:45 pm
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In that case you are better of getting the KFX engine as it will match with all the sensors e.t.c.
I personally have no idea about the difference in the KFX & KFW but it would make sense to stick with the one you currently have Wink

#9: Re: Engine blocks Author: chunkielad, Location: Leigh PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 pm
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among the already mentions issues withchaning to the 1.6, a lot of insurance companiess won't touch you with a bigger engine installed and then you also will be paying more road tax.

#10: Re: Engine blocks Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:10 pm
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What of course, i forgot, 1.4 and 1.6 8 valve engines look entirelly different

So much so when i put a 106 1.6 engine in, i thought i secretly put in a V8

#11: Re: Engine blocks Author: T_bandery, Location: East london PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:16 pm
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Insurance company aint really going to find out if it is a 1.6 unless they do some serious measuring of the combustion chambers, i say go ahead with a 1.6, well worth it Wink

#12: Re: Engine blocks Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:18 pm
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The 1.6 8v engine is:
Thirsty
Gutless
Expensive on road tax
More to ensure

Do the maths! Laughing

#13: Re: Engine blocks Author: chunkielad, Location: Leigh PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:27 pm
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T_bandery wrote:
Insurance company aint really going to find out if it is a 1.6 unless they do some serious measuring of the combustion chambers, i say go ahead with a 1.6, well worth it Wink

So insurance companies don't check engine numbers against the V5? DVLA don't have a list of engine numbers already in cars and will automatically change it to a 1.6 when the engine number is changed to avoid problem 1?

Changing the engine and not telling DVLA/Insurance is the easiest way to get prosectued for driving without insurance come accident time. I know someone who put a 1.8 Zetec in his 1.4 focus and didn't tell anyone. When someone hit the back of him all hell broke loose the insurance company said his policy was invalid, informed the police who promptly came round and took the car. Mad

#14: Re: Engine blocks Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:29 pm
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To be honest my 1.4 8v is thirsty enough at times as nine out of ten times im only travelling at most 10 miles. Either to work or into town. As i said before i wouldnt go out my way to put a 1.6 in unless it was a good price i.e. less than a 1.4.

As for the extra power gains im really not fussed as im trying to build up some no claims so that when the time comes i can insure a quicker car. And untill then will be repairing/restoring said car.

#15: Re: Engine blocks Author: Seabook PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:50 pm
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could you not just buy the cylinder head?



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