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#1: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:20 am
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It's time to bite the bullet and have a go at giving my x reg gti a service by myself..like they say you can only learn through doing, and copying all the how to threads!!

couple of questions though if somebody could help before i go to eurocarparts and buy all the items

1. believe i need 5w40 oil is that correct, also does it matter what brand oil it is as they only have valvoline branded and i have never heard of it.

2. the oil filter they recommend is either a mann for £6.72 or a guttmann for £4.20. same again will either do or am i best trying to get one from peugeot.

3. air filters. was going to get a k&n one, not expecting it to give me any performance increase but is it better for my car than a standared peugeot one or the guttmann/bosch ones for £8.04/11.40 at ecp.

4. anybody know where the fuel filter is off the top of there head. the how to guide says its near the wheel arch but somebody posted it is not there on the gti. not had a chance to look yet but hopefully somebody can give me a heads up as not really got a clue when it comes to anything mechanical.

cheers for any advice, off to get the parts in a hour so any advice will be greatly recieved!!!!

#2: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Harty, Location: West Lothian PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:30 am
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i got a fuel filter for my old gti but there was no fuel filter there, if you look under the car toward the front of the fuel tank you should see one if not then all gti's are the same and the filter is in the tank itself and no need to clean

Chris

#3: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:33 am
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ok cheers for that. will have a look when i get under the car..the could have been a long time spent looking Smile

#4: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: E5GDM, Location: Essex PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:33 am
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valvoline are well known, so will be fine.

#5: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and Catterick PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:34 am
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1. Yes the oil you need is 5w40 and its up to you on brand of oil really but ll i can say is that i use mobil1 its expensive but since i serviced mine with it it feels much better, also i use 0w40 a its more readily available i found 5w40 hard to get hold of?

2. Oil filter i just went to my local car parts place and got one im sure brand on oil filter doesnt make much difference, just make sure when you put it on you put a bit of oil round the seal to help it fit and make sure it is the right fit for your car

3. Air filters i cant really speak on as im on an induction kit but i believe from what people have told me the k&n ones are good, sure someone on here is selling a k&n panel filter new and unused so may be able to get that at the same price as what you was going to pay for a normal one so would be worth trying it out.

4 If i remember correctly the fuel filter is built into the engine, may not be the case with yours being an older gti but im unsure on this.

#6: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:34 am
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Get a genuine oil filter from Peugeot, they're not particulary expensive.
I had a K&N air filter in my GTi, not a huge difference really. I just use an original paper filter now.
Oil use Total Quartz something or other, I'll find you a link in a min.

#7: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:45 am
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cheers for the quick answers. will have a look to see if i can see who is selling the k&n filter now.

as for the oil i am on a time limit as got someone coming down to hold my hand while i do it so got to get it now Smile . ecp only seem to do valvoline 5ltr for £42.00. would it be just as eay to get the other oil from halfords etc for not too much difference in price.

cheers again

#8: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:47 am
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kev85 wrote:
cheers for the quick answers. will have a look to see if i can see who is selling the k&n filter now.

as for the oil i am on a time limit as got someone coming down to hold my hand while i do it so got to get it now Smile . ecp only seem to do valvoline 5ltr for £42.00. would it be just as eay to get the other oil from halfords etc for not too much difference in price.

cheers again

Oil from Halfords is usually overpriced.
Get 5 litres of Total Quartz online for under £30.

#9: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:47 am
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drunknmunky, is it fine to use 0w40 oil then as halfords have got it for £38.39. also where in blackburn are you, live in darwen myself!!!

#10: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:49 am
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cheers cd-vrs. like i say managed to rope a guy in from work last minute to give me a hand so gotta get all the stuff from a shop now, no cheap online deals for me.

#11: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:52 am
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kev85 wrote:
drunknmunky, is it fine to use 0w40 oil then as halfords have got it for £38.39. also where in blackburn are you, live in darwen myself!!!

I had Castrol Edge Sport 0w40 oil before I used Total 5w40, the engine was a lot happier with 5w40.

Sounded a bit tappy when cold with 0w40.

#12: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: E5GDM, Location: Essex PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:53 am
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valvoline is fine.

#13: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley) PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:08 am
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Might be worth getting a engine flush up to you.

#14: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and Catterick PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:09 am
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kev85 wrote:
drunknmunky, is it fine to use 0w40 oil then as halfords have got it for £38.39. also where in blackburn are you, live in darwen myself!!!

i have not had any complaints from mine running on 0w40, although im driving a gti180 not that that should make much difference i wouldnt of thought, and i go to a place called majrona karparts for my oil and filter its on the main road into blackburn next to tesco express and st.wilfrids school if you know where that is? cost me bout £35 for my oil and a couple of quid for a filter.

I live in cherry tree but not there most of the time as im in the army so based in north yorkshire but try and get there most weekends.

Where abouts in darwen i used to go over all the time as my mate lives just on the outskirts of darwen near the old darwen vale school.

#15: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:20 am
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1) Get some Total Quartz 9000 delivered from AEP Direct.
2) Get an oil filter from AEP Direct
3) K&N panel filter is fine
4) The fuel filter on an X reg GTi is behind the sill at the side of the fuel tank.

#16: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:28 am
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it was a success, well sort of.

managed to do the oil/filter and the pollen filter. managed to work out the air filter, not hard at all not its just a case of which to buy. now i just need to find the fuel filter but it would seem edward has given me a heads up on that.

now for the problem....when looking for the spark plugs i moved what i think is a breather pipe running from the air filter towards the main engine block. the thing was that brittle it snapped clean in two. anyone have any idea where i can get this replaced other than peugoet or shall i just get one from the scrap yard.

when i did finally get to the spark plugs i pulled them out to find that they were covered in oil. no i fully admit i dont really know what goes on under the bonnet of a car but surely thats not right. on the topic of spark plugs anyone recommend best ones/where to buy/cost.

some thanks below for all those that have help out.. couldn't have done it without you Very Happy


edward.

cheers for the info. unfortunately had to buy all my stuff today so couldn't get the savings by going online but that site seems quite good, now its just time to find the fuel filter.

E5GDM & cd-vrs

cheers for the reply. ended up going for valvoline in the end. know its about a tenner more than the other stuff people have told me but hopefully this will be ok until the next oil change. then i can go for the total oil

nick180

yeah good idea. didn't manage to do it this time as forgot to buy the stuff, and dont fancy emptying out £42 worth of oil to do it. think it will have to go on the list of things to do next time.

drunknmunky

cherrytree is not to far from me. i'm in lower darwen between jct 4 and 5 just off blackamoor road if you know it. cheers for the help again.

#17: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr Wolverhampton PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:30 am
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kev85 wrote:


now for the problem....when looking for the spark plugs i moved what i think is a breather pipe running from the air filter towards the main engine block. the thing was that brittle it snapped clean in two. anyone have any idea where i can get this replaced other than peugoet or shall i just get one from the scrap yard.


mine did the same, its just a breather. i taped mine up with bright red electrical insulation tape along the length. looks pretty cool Smile and still works fine!

#18: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:34 am
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The breather hose is cheap enough to buy new from your local dealer. £24 or so.
I can PM you the part number later, they get really brittle with age so not worth buying a used one.

#19: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:42 am
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cheers for the respone. if you wouldn't mind sending me the part number later that would be good. as for taping it up, think that will have to do in the meantime.

#20: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:44 am
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any ideas on the oil around the spark plugs.

car has not been running well recently with the engine management light coming on the other day. tried to start it up today and it would not fire up, managed to eventually but only just. just wondering if they are all interlinked.

drunknmunky do you know anywhere decent to get the codes read in blackburn so i can see whats wrong with my car.

cheers

#21: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr Wolverhampton PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:10 am
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not sure about the sparks, mine have oil around as well but my engine is certainly not a shining example.

bosch super 4's are the best sparks to use in a 206, try and avoid NGK

#22: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: CD-B3, Location: Salisbury / New Forest PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:14 am
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Part number is 00001192T6 RE-SUCTION PIPE (Engine Breather Hose)
£21.01+ VAT

#23: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:24 am
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cheers again people. would be lost without this site

#24: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and Catterick PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:25 am
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go for bosch super 4 can pick them up from halfords

and yeah i know where you are on about mate surprised you havent seen me flying about there then as im round there sometimes going to my mates mainly weekends though

#25: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:55 am
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will have to keep an eye out for you now. any chance you remember who was selling the k&n filter. just trying to find it but no luck

#26: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and Catterick PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:56 am
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kev85 wrote:
will have to keep an eye out for you now. any chance you remember who was selling the k&n filter. just trying to find it but no luck

no cant think of it now off the top of my head just sure i saw one might have sold already maybe?

and ill be sure to keep an eye out for you and as you can see its impossible to miss me with the amount of stickers on my rear window

#27: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:06 am
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no worries. cant only find one being sold for the 180. cheers anyway

#28: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr Wolverhampton PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:17 am
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£33 on ebay, i ordered one today. cant go wrong Smile

#29: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:25 am
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kev85 wrote:
It's time to bite the bullet and have a go at giving my x reg gti a service by myself..like they say you can only learn through doing, and copying all the how to threads!!

couple of questions though if somebody could help before i go to eurocarparts and buy all the items

1. believe i need 5w40 oil is that correct, also does it matter what brand oil it is as they only have valvoline branded and i have never heard of it.

Total Quartz 7000 10w40 or Total Quartz 9000 5w40. Get it from Peugeot or AEP Direct

2. the oil filter they recommend is either a mann for £6.72 or a guttmann for £4.20. same again will either do or am i best trying to get one from peugeot.

Get the oil filter from Peugeot, they aren't expensive. Make sure you get a new sump washer as well


3. air filters. was going to get a k&n one, not expecting it to give me any performance increase but is it better for my car than a standared peugeot one or the guttmann/bosch ones for £8.04/11.40 at ecp.

[color=red]A aftermarket panel filter will increase airflow and save money on servicing this item in the long run, but they don't filter as well as a paper one[/color=red]

4. anybody know where the fuel filter is off the top of there head. the how to guide says its near the wheel arch but somebody posted it is not there on the gti. not had a chance to look yet but hopefully somebody can give me a heads up as not really got a clue when it comes to anything mechanical.
[color=red]It's either under the right rear wheel arch, if its not there it's a self cleaning one in the fuel tank that doesn't need to be replaced [/color=red]
cheers for any advice, off to get the parts in a hour so any advice will be greatly recieved!!!!

#30: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:08 pm
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The breather pipe can be fixed for less if you use the couplings/junctions from the original hose and fit some cheap silicone hose from Ebay.

#31: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:13 pm
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i was hoping that would be the case. going to have a look around now for some hose on ebay as it is only the piping that is broken.

#32: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: mattievrs, Location: Leicester PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:15 pm
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kev85 wrote:
any ideas on the oil around the spark plugs.

car has not been running well recently with the engine management light coming on the other day. tried to start it up today and it would not fire up, managed to eventually but only just. just wondering if they are all interlinked.

drunknmunky do you know anywhere decent to get the codes read in blackburn so i can see whats wrong with my car.

cheers

more than likely be the rocker cover gasket thats leaking.

#33: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:28 pm
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the thing is with k&n filter is quite expensive, not to mention you have to buy the cleaning fluid and oil it every time after you clean it :/

#34: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:31 pm
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Seabook wrote:
the thing is with k&n filter is quite expensive, not to mention you have to buy the cleaning fluid and oil it every time after you clean it :/

If you're using the full cans on your filter, then you're using way too much Laughing

The cleaning kit should last you a long time.

#35: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:38 pm
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I've had a K&N cleaning kit for 5 years. It's not even half used yet!

#36: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:41 pm
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the oil last a long time but the cleaning fluid is running out quite fast Laughing

#37: Re: 206 gti self service..advice needed please Author: kev85, Location: blackburn PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:51 pm
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rocket cover gasket..another thing i will have to look into then and more importantly price up.

as for the k&n as long as the cleaning kit isn't too expensive and lasts a couple of years it should end up working out about even. will have to look into it and decide as probably only have the car another 2 years at most, probably less with all thats going wrong with it!!!!!



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