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#1: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:40 am
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i was reading a forum on here and vanman said you could fit a 1.6 16v VTS or 106gti lump in a 206 would that be fairly easy as thy cnt be much different from a 206 1.6 16v engine are they?

#2: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:42 am
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yes, but what's the point of doing this?

#3: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:46 am
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cause they have more power and i found one that been turbocharged, how easy would it be to make fit?

#4: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Mikey2uk, Location: Stevenage PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:49 am
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PM Seb as Im sure he fitted one to his old 206. Im sure it was the VTR lump he did.

#5: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:51 am
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XSIcheeseman wrote:
i was reading a forum on here and vanman said you could fit a 1.6 16v VTS or 106gti lump in a 206 would that be fairly easy as thy cnt be much different from a 206 1.6 16v engine are they?

It's basically the same engine

#6: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:52 am
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do you know the difference between those 2 engine?

#7: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:53 am
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Lee wrote:
XSIcheeseman wrote:
i was reading a forum on here and vanman said you could fit a 1.6 16v VTS or 106gti lump in a 206 would that be fairly easy as thy cnt be much different from a 206 1.6 16v engine are they?

It's basically the same engine

i feel sick of replying this guy Razz

#8: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:53 am
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hmm cuase i thought the 106 gti had 120 bhp standard thts why i thought upgrade i know it aint much but i was thinkin of gettin an engine on a rig and just rebuilding it and addin cams nd stuff then droppin it in

#9: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:56 am
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so if its all the same would 106 gti stuff fit the 206 1.6 16v engine?

#10: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:02 am
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XSIcheeseman wrote:
so if its all the same would 106 gti stuff fit the 206 1.6 16v engine?

do you know why tu5j4 has more power than tu5jp4?

#11: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:04 am
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aint got a clue

#12: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:06 am
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cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-gti...4aa86c0a56

#13: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:10 am
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XSIcheeseman wrote:
aint got a clue

engine from the 206 (TU5JP4) has bigger valves on the cylinder head

the one from the 106/SAXO VTS has better camshaft and better map.

#14: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:12 am
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XSIcheeseman wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-gti-turbo-engine-fully-forged-done-10k-look-/320653232726?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa86c0a56

ok, now makes more sense Razz

that should be pretty much straight forward swap, ecu, wire loop, etc...

#15: Re: will these fit easy? Author: PugJH, Location: Northants PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:31 am
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yeah just drop it in, then next week i'll have the parts when you split the car

#16: Re: will these fit easy? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:51 am
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a grand for a second hand block.....bit of an expensive gamble isn't it.

#17: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:54 am
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D4NTP wrote:
a grand for a second hand block.....bit of an expensive gamble isn't it.

not to mention you will have to pay extra for the turbo, intercooler etc.... Razz

#18: Re: will these fit easy? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:57 am
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Seabook wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
a grand for a second hand block.....bit of an expensive gamble isn't it.

not to mention you will have to pay extra for the turbo, intercooler etc.... Razz

so what would the bill for this be, £1000 for the lump, £500 for a tubo??? ECU???? surely even if you do this yourself its £2k+.
Not that i have any idea about this kinda thing, but for that i'd want an absolute monster, which it just aint gonna be!

#19: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:51 am
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Well im assumin tht person on ebay wants 995 for the lot, but i don't know wat i want to , i want to try and make the fastest na 1.6 engine around

#20: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:52 am
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Seabook wrote:
XSIcheeseman wrote:
aint got a clue

engine from the 206 (TU5JP4) has bigger valves on the cylinder head

the one from the 106/SAXO VTS has better camshaft and better map.



So could u put the cams from the 106 gti in the 206 engine?

#21: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:59 am
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XSIcheeseman wrote:
Well im assumin tht person on ebay wants 995 for the lot, but i don't know what i want to , i want to try and make the fastest na 1.6 engine around

na engine, but you are looking at a turbo lump DOH!!!

#22: Re: will these fit easy? Author: XSIcheeseman, Location: Orpington PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:09 am
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I know tht for a turbo lump but tht was just a thought lol i really do want to make a fast na engine , cud u put the cams from a gti in the 206?

#23: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:18 am
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no

#24: Re: will these fit easy? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:49 am
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XSIcheeseman wrote:
I know tht for a turbo lump but tht was just a thought lol i really do want to make a fast na engine , cud u put the cams from a gti in the 206?

If your after a fast NA then instead of paying a sh@t load for that, there's a GTI engine for sale on here for £350 with looms ecu, the lot. Surely that would be a better start than a 1.6.....just a though

#25: Re: will these fit easy? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:56 am
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D4NTP wrote:
XSIcheeseman wrote:
I know tht for a turbo lump but tht was just a thought lol i really do want to make a fast na engine , cud u put the cams from a gti in the 206?

If your after a fast NA then instead of paying a sh@t load for that, there's a GTI engine for sale on here for £350 with looms ecu, the lot. Surely that would be a better start than a 1.6.....just a though

to be fair i would just start on the 1.6 16v on the 206. is just the same engine really if you are going to tune it. no point to put the 1.6 gti engine in,

#26: Re: will these fit easy? Author: kieron, Location: in the house PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:36 pm
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^^^^

what seabrook said

the tu5jp4 found in the 206,c2 c3 etc is alot sbetter engine as its more refined but it will not rev as high

is it worth it for the sake of 10bhp?

why not buy the dp engineering kit for £1600 it will see 195bhp

www.dp-engineering.nl/..._compo.php

Last edited by kieron on Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:40 pm; edited 1 time in total

#27: Re: will these fit easy? Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:37 pm
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I meant 2.0 GTI engine. or just sell your current car and but either a 106GTI turbo or a 206GTI. will probably save you ££££'s



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