#1: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:11 am ---- Hi all,
Ive just changed my spark plugs and the plug I took out of cylinder 1 was covered in oil.
My engine has covered 108k, would the oil on the plug be associated with engine wear or just a leak somewhere?
There is no smoke through the exhaust or anything and it doesnt get through excess oil either.
Any ideas at all??
#2: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:13 am ---- Could it be a piston ring thats gone?
#3: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:17 am ---- Hope not Rich
#4: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:22 am ---- Just spoke to my dad, he said it could have leaked in there from the top when you have topped it up or serviced it last time, if its not using oil i wouldnt worry too much, best bet is to take it back out in a week or so's time and see if there's anymore, if not, happy days lol
#5: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:26 am ---- Ah thats re-assuring! Good plan, ill check in the week
#6: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: stevedude, Location: aldershotPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:29 am ---- Haynes manual claim if the plug is black and oily, then it is likely that the engine is fairly worn and the mixture is too rich
#7: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: jase123, Location: yorkshirePosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:07 am ---- head gasket they dont always boil over but the can leak oil to the piston just depends where its gone get a compression test and the you will no where you stand
#8: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: dturbopeck, Location: newcastle upon tynePosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:47 am ---- was your socket covered in oil when u took the plug out?
#9: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:52 am ----
stevedude wrote:
Haynes manual claim if the plug is black and oily, then it is likely that the engine is fairly worn and the mixture is too rich
It's pretty unlikely to be running rich on just one cylinder. Check for head hasket leaks first, if it's not in the coolant, then check the oil cap for gunge, but getting th compression checked would be best.
#10: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Mikey2uk, Location: StevenagePosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:55 am ---- If it is a piston ring I would of thought you would have blue smoke coming from the exhaust.
How much oil is it using? Are you sure you havent over filled as well.
#11: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:55 am ---- Coolent and oil have always been fine, and today was no exception
The socket was clean when it came out.
#12: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:06 pm ---- oily plugs can be spliiage, leaking valve guides (part of the head) rings but to be honest if its not using oil , it drives ok, no oil in the water and no smoke then i wouldnt worry
#13: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: jase123, Location: yorkshirePosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:37 pm ----
D4NTP wrote:
stevedude wrote:
Haynes manual claim if the plug is black and oily, then it is likely that the engine is fairly worn and the mixture is too rich
It's pretty unlikely to be running rich on just one cylinder. Check for head hasket leaks first, if it's not in the coolant, then check the oil cap for gunge, but getting th compression checked would be best.
not alwats the case a blown head can leak to 1 cilinder or even blow between 2 cilinders a compression test will only find a blown gasket if the gasket is blown between 2 clinders ie 1 n3 2 pitons will be low on compression while 2 are as normal, the normal reading of compression is around 150 or around that region. if the gasket is gone then coolent can gat to the cilinder this would course the spark plug to hit and miss! and this will result in a oiled up plug!! or a plug thats ont running rite
#14: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas!Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:29 pm ----
jase123 wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
stevedude wrote:
Haynes manual claim if the plug is black and oily, then it is likely that the engine is fairly worn and the mixture is too rich
It's pretty unlikely to be running rich on just one cylinder. Check for head hasket leaks first, if it's not in the coolant, then check the oil cap for gunge, but getting th compression checked would be best.
not alwats the case a blown head can leak to 1 cilinder or even blow between 2 cilinders a compression test will only find a blown gasket if the gasket is blown between 2 clinders ie 1 n3 2 pitons will be low on compression while 2 are as normal, the normal reading of compression is around 150 or around that region. if the gasket is gone then coolent can gat to the cilinder this would course the spark plug to hit and miss! and this will result in a oiled up plug!! or a plug thats ont running rite
point taken, BUT if coolant was getting into the cylinder the car would be white smoking. so it's, again, doubtful
#15: Re: Im slightly concerned about my 206... Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:51 am ----
D4NTP wrote:
jase123 wrote:
D4NTP wrote:
stevedude wrote:
Haynes manual claim if the plug is black and oily, then it is likely that the engine is fairly worn and the mixture is too rich
It's pretty unlikely to be running rich on just one cylinder. Check for head hasket leaks first, if it's not in the coolant, then check the oil cap for gunge, but getting th compression checked would be best.
not alwats the case a blown head can leak to 1 cilinder or even blow between 2 cilinders a compression test will only find a blown gasket if the gasket is blown between 2 clinders ie 1 n3 2 pitons will be low on compression while 2 are as normal, the normal reading of compression is around 150 or around that region. if the gasket is gone then coolent can gat to the cilinder this would course the spark plug to hit and miss! and this will result in a oiled up plug!! or a plug thats ont running rite
point taken, BUT if coolant was getting into the cylinder the car would be white smoking. so it's, again, doubtful
correct but if the oil is goin in to the water it goes round the header and rad, so wouldnt smoke
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