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#1: cams.....for gti Author: charlie-52, Location: telford PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:23 pm
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im thinking about getting cams for my 206 gti 138

basicly i want to know what ones i should go for?

i dont want to high lift as its a daily use car and i dont want to have to go through remap, but i want them to have the lumpy sound to them

also what make should i go for for cost effective but not cheap crap

#2: Re: cams.....for gti Author: MutilateTheDead, Location: Derby PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:30 pm
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I was looking at new camsbut everyone on here said to get a re-map too, and i don;t think they come very cheap Sad

#3: Re: cams.....for gti Author: charlie-52, Location: telford PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:37 pm
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i know a lad who had cams in a saxo vts with out a remap and run fine and really sounded amazing Smile

#4: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:38 pm
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charlie-52 wrote:

i dont want to high lift as its a daily use car

It's duration you need to be worried about.

charlie-52 wrote:

but i want them to have the lumpy sound to them

Then just fit some Piper Ultimate Road cams to your engine, will need some pockets machining into the pistons. With your standard inlet you'll get all the lumpyness you desire Rolling Eyes

#5: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:39 pm
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i don't understand at all.

lumpy idle is cause by the long duration of the camshaft and normally long duration camshaft are quite high lifting and need a remap to work well.

#6: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:55 pm
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They also won't give best results on the standard inlet. If you're going to do it, do it properly.

#7: Re: cams.....for gti Author: no_offences, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:12 pm
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Edward wrote:
They also won't give best results on the standard inlet. If you're going to do it, do it properly.
couldnt have said it better, dont do NA tuning unless you do it the best way otherwise your wasting your time and money

#8: Re: cams.....for gti Author: no_offences, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:12 pm
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charlie-52 wrote:
im thinking about getting cams for my 206 gti 138

basicly i want to know what ones i should go for?

i dont want to high lift as its a daily use car and i dont want to have to go through remap, but i want them to have the lumpy sound to them

also what make should i go for for cost effective but not cheap crap
remaps will make the most of your mods its a dumb idea to avoid it

#9: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:34 am
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Also if you want lump cams it means they'll let the engine breath better at higher revs...meaning the rev limit needs to be increased.

#10: Re: cams.....for gti Author: charlie-52, Location: telford PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:08 am
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okay so basically if you have cams fitted it is without a doubt you will need a remap? or will it still run fine without?

#11: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr Wolverhampton PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:56 am
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im considering some fast road cams with a stainless manifold and a remap to go with my panel filter and cat back.

from what ive heard thats the best thing to do without going down the route of throttle bodies turbo or full rebuilds

#12: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Spanerman, Location: Neath, South Wales. PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:08 am
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charlie-52 wrote:
okay so basically if you have cams fitted it is without a doubt you will need a remap? or will it still run fine without?

It will run ok, just not to its full potential
Cool

#13: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Mikey2uk, Location: Stevenage PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:15 am
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Give Macj a PM he may be able to help you out here.

#14: Re: cams.....for gti Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:57 am
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Spanerman wrote:
charlie-52 wrote:
okay so basically if you have cams fitted it is without a doubt you will need a remap? or will it still run fine without?

It will run ok, just not to its full potential
Cool

it depends on what profile is the cam.

i know cat. has got some newcamshaft for pug engine which require no remap.

but they are just very mid sport cam only

#15: Re: cams.....for gti Author: no_offences, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:55 pm
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Seabook wrote:
Spanerman wrote:
charlie-52 wrote:
okay so basically if you have cams fitted it is without a doubt you will need a remap? or will it still run fine without?

It will run ok, just not to its full potential
Cool

it depends on what profile is the cam.

i know cat. has got some newcamshaft for pug engine which require no remap.

but they are just very mid sport cam only
to be honest if they dont require a remap there gunna be s**t, , no point modding and tuning if you dont do it right, there's a big difference from my old mapped gti to my standard gt and it had no other performance mods the standard map on a gti 138 is s**te bumpy torque line



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