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Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed!
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#1: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: kit325, Location: London PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:51 am
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There's knocking noise on my suspension, so i order 2 new wishbone to replace it myself with haynes guide bok as reference.

I start with diver's side, everthing went smoothly, just a bit of pain trying to push back the ball joint on the new wishbone to the hub, but it is done at the end. However, when doing the passenger side, the F**king drive shaft just pop out from the gear box and there's gearbox oil everyway. Been struggle to insert the new wishbone and have to abandone the job because of the cold weather (stay too long outside).

Just wonder if anyone got any better idea or procedure to do this better. I know that is better to have to person on this but i am working alone since my girl friend can't give me much help. Any help from will be appreciated, Cheers!

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Update!

Both wishbones been replace thz to advices from some of u guys. However, the loud knocking noise still can be heard when i took it out for a test drive. Both droplinks been replaced 4 months ago and now i got new wishbones. Anyone got any idea what to look at next to fix this? Cheers!

Last edited by kit325 on Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:18 pm; edited 1 time in total

#2: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: a.odfew, Location: birmingham PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:56 am
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Which stage are you at? Is the passenger side wishbone bolted on to the subframe yet?

#3: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditch PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:57 am
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hahaha the gearbox oil on the drive is always a pain in the ass done it so many times! just have to persist put the wishbone on the chassis first and then the balljoint on 2nd, the easiest way to get it into the hub is with a trolly jack and make sure u tap it straight with a hammer then jack slowly and gently to it pops in

good luck

#4: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: kit325, Location: London PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:14 pm
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Only manage to insert the bolt for the front bush, because the hub is blocking the way so is hard for me to put the rear bush into position. Whenever i try to jack up the hub, the damm thing move and there will be more gearbox oil coming out. Do i need to tie up the hub to the frame so it won't move? How many litter of oil i need if i need to top up the gearbox oil?

Really regret to start up the job during these cold times, shoul have wait till it get warmer.

#5: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:00 pm
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So you're still struggling to get the wishbone in place? They can be difficult but you just need to make sure the thing goes in perfectly straight then the bushes don't get jammed within the subframe.

#6: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: Surfer333, Location: Cardiff, Wales PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:59 pm
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Mine needed doing 3 months ago. I just got the garage to do it. I was lucky I found a garage that chagred me only £50.00 a side. So I paid £100.00 for 2 new wishbones to be fitted. I bought the wishbones for £75.00 each new from a cool site oin the internet.
Save ya energy and don't get cold, get a garage to do em.

#7: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: kit325, Location: London PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:25 pm
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Too late, already fitted the driver side, wishbone on passenger side been removed and now trying to fit in a new one. HAving problmem installing new one cause of the popping out gear box problem. Just wonder if there are any one here which got any bright ideas to install it in a better way. Cheers!

#8: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: mattievrs, Location: Leicester PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:42 pm
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I found it easiest to unbolt the sub frame and drop it down on the passenger side to enable easier access for the ball joint. Either way, the shaft will come out at some point.

#9: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: paulrushton, Location: Huddersfield PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 3:45 pm
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Did you buy decent wishbones. If you've got cheap ones they will wear a lot quicker. Andrew Page sell oe quality QH ones for £49 each.

#10: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: SDK206, Location: Earth, most of the time!! PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:18 am
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Don't know if this will be any help but if you can turn the hub on full left lock it opens up some space to get the arm located abit easier so you dont risk pulling the shaft out of the box, just be careful when turning the hub not to pop it out Smile

Also by pulling the hub towards you or pushing away can help things as its the balljoint that causes grief when trying to move the arm into position

HTH

steve

#11: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: stevedude, Location: aldershot PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:22 am
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4-5 hours, i ache all over. bloody pugs, well least passenger side is done, and yes oil everywhere lol.
if anyone is gonna do there's, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LONG LEVER, some passing by mechanic took pity on me, and got his lever out the van to help me out.
ball joint didnt wanna come out, and i was using a pack hammer lol

#12: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: kit325, Location: London PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:10 pm
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After a 2 hours of hardwork, finally manage to replace the passenger side wishbone. Really a pain in the ass job to do it, but at least i got the idea how to it.

However, the knockinng sound still can be hear when driving the car. Make no difference even i replace the wishbones Sad . Anyone here got any idea what might cause the knocking sound? Cheers!

PS: doplinks been change.

#13: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: apjs87, Location: Plymouth PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:52 pm
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Tighten the top mounts, try that. Just cured the knocking on my car

#14: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:59 pm
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apjs87 wrote:
Tighten the top mounts, try that. Just cured the knocking on my car

make sure you don't over tightening it Confused

pretty sure the topmount nuts is nylon nuts, shouldn't get loosen itself Confused

#15: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:17 pm
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stevedude wrote:
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A LONG LEVER, some passing by mechanic took pity on me, and got his lever out the van to help me out.
ball joint didnt wanna come out, and i was using a pack hammer lol

No need for brute force...

 

#16: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: danuk76, Location: uk PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:25 pm
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just been through this hell, after 6 hours decided to google and find that dropping the subframe is the answer. I cant seem to tighten the steering rod taper bolt nut now it just keeps turning, any advice please for the morning

#17: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info Code PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:38 pm
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You dropped the subframe to replace the wishbone? I've never once had to do that and I've replaced wishbones on a few 206's now Confused

#18: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:12 pm
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I cant unserstand how so many people have problems doing 206 wishbones. Rolling Eyes

Far to many people taking on jobs beyond there skills.

#19: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: Daveb206, Location: Bordon PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:36 pm
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Haha been there mate feel your pain!

#20: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: marrygold75, Location: lancashire PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:52 am
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when trying to get the bottom ball joint in the hub ,i find that if i push the hub
forward it makes a better angle for the ball joint to go in.
And i always put a bit of grease on,every bit helps.
it also helps if you ever want to get it off.
no jack ,no hammer
 

#21: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: danuk76, Location: uk PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:39 am
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MrBSI wrote:
Far to many people taking on jobs beyond there skills.

Well if the goverment stopped stealing all my money in so called taxes and giving it away to Bankers and *ank*** I would have paid a garage to do it.

rant over feel better lol

#22: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: john206gti, Location: south shields PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:24 am
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I use spring clamps to make the length of the strut shorter, clamp it right down and gives enough room
to lever the wishbone down with a pry bar and slot it in.

Did you replace the ball joint pinch bolts? Make sure there really tight.

Get the wheel off and have a look for movement with a bar

John

#23: Re: Replacing wisbone, pain in the ass! Help needed! Author: NorthantsBen, Location: Raunds, Northamptonshire PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:38 am
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mattievrs wrote:
I found it easiest to unbolt the sub frame and drop it down on the passenger side to enable easier access for the ball joint. Either way, the shaft will come out at some point.

i did that other day, was dead easy that way Smile



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