#1: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:32 pm ---- Took my car to the garage today as the clutch cable has stretched. After a road test, they said that i would need a new clutch kit as I have brake judder?
The car seems fine to me, except the clutch pedal slipping every now and then.
What is brake judder and what does it have to do with the clutch?
#2: Re: Brake Judder Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:33 pm ---- are you sure they are not saying clutch judder?
#3: Re: Brake Judder Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:34 pm ---- He definately said brake judder, but he seemed like he was just one his way out when i went to collect it so he might have meant clutch judder.
#4: Re: Brake Judder Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:39 pm ---- I thought brake judder was caused by warped disc's or pad's, Stuff like that. Correct me if I'm wrong but I have never heard brake juddering caused by clutch issue's.
Edit - Just seen above post's
#5: Re: Brake Judder Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:49 pm ---- So is clutch judder bad?
The clutch is only 12k miles old and i cant take it back under warranty as the whole subframe etc is from another car
#6: Re: Brake Judder Author: Ste, Location: Hull -or- The World Of Info CodePosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:54 pm ---- Clutch Judder is caused by the clutch components and flywheel not meeting concentrically. The friction surfaces rub concentrically causing a low frequency vibration that is transmitted to the car via the engine/gearbox mountings and drive shafts. Causes can be
1) Mis-aligned clutch
2) Clutch wear/broken 'finger' springs
3) Condensation on the flywheel (usually happens on colder nights in which case judder should only last until the condensation has evaporated)
4) Contamination on the clutch such as oil from a leaking gland.
Case 1 will require the clutch to be re-aligned
Case 2 will require a new clutch
Case 3 may happen frequently on colder mornings, but judder will disappear 5 mins into driving.
Case 4 Replacement of the clutch plates
Driving continuously with judder may cause damage/increase wear to engine and/or gearbox components. If judder persists take your vehicle to a garage as soon as possible.
#7: Re: Brake Judder Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:54 pm ---- I don't know a lot about clutch judder but found thid while trying to educate myself, It may help.
#8: Re: Brake Judder Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:55 pm ----
Ste206 wrote:
Clutch Judder is caused by the clutch components and flywheel not meeting concentrically. The friction surfaces rub concentrically causing a low frequency vibration that is transmitted to the car via the engine/gearbox mountings and drive shafts. Causes can be
1) Mis-aligned clutch
2) Clutch wear/broken 'finger' springs
3) Condensation on the flywheel (usually happens on colder nights in which case judder should only last until the condensation has evaporated)
4) Contamination on the clutch such as oil from a leaking gland.
Case 1 will require the clutch to be re-aligned
Case 2 will require a new clutch
Case 3 may happen frequently on colder mornings, but judder will disappear 5 mins into driving.
Case 4 Replacement of the clutch plates
Driving continuously with judder may cause damage/increase wear to engine and/or gearbox components. If judder persists take your vehicle to a garage as soon as possible.
#10: Re: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:25 pm ---- Just hope it help's, Suck's with all the hard work you have just put into the engine.
#11: Re: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: panason1c, Location: SomersetPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:20 am ---- "Case 1 will require the clutch to be re-aligned"
Out of curiosity, exactly how do you re-align a clutch?
#12: Re: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: panason1c, Location: SomersetPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:26 am ----
panason1c wrote:
"Case 1 will require the clutch to be re-aligned"
Out of curiosity, exactly how do you re-align a clutch?...surely the clutch is self-aligned by the spigot shaft passing thru its centre?.
Clutch judder can also be caused by the friction plate becoming warped
#13: Re: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:30 am ---- Is this the clutch from Liams old pug then?! I only had one fitted recently before the engine went on me!
regarding the warranty, will they know about the subframe being different etc?!
#14: Re: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:36 am ---- Yeah its Liams clutch, but thats new aswell.
If I had a recept for your clutch i could give it a go, but I certainly cant with Liams as its a different car lol.
#15: Re: Clutch Judder [Brake Judder] Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:40 am ---- Sorry I beleive my mum didnt post the paperwork when i asked for your address that time! I think the receipt was with it. Ill make her post them all tomorow, can you pm me your address again?
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and i cant take it back under warranty as the whole subframe etc is from another car 
