#61: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:37 am ---- yeah i do but i dont need to check it 24/7 incase my tyres blow, i have expensive tyres so why waste money not checking?, end of the day it dont even look good, most people even say it looks daft so what exactly are you gaining? its not a an argument you can ever win
#62: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: sillyhilly, Location: The Mean Streets of CoventryPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:41 am ---- Bet I could win the argument.
If he likes it, and thinks it makes a difference, then why would he care what anybody else thinks? Modifying a car is down to personal preference.
Consider that argument just won
However, it's pointless and looks stupid. The vote says it all
#63: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:15 am ----
Barking wrote:
I say go for it. If the worst happens then it will stop any more useless threads from you
Useless threads?
Well done from the person with no helpful input/threads at all
#64: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: Gems, Location: OxfordPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:32 am ---- lol this thread is excellent to read.
I'd say go for it as i think it looks good and you've made your mind up already anyways. Yeah it makes your steering bad, but its nothing that you don't know about before having it done.
#65: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: europug, Location: londonPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:26 am ---- Who said 24/7 i said check psi same as u normaly would as with stretch make sure it dont drasticly change! I have stretch and it does look good if people dont like euro look ect fair enough as apart from drift cars there the cars that have it
Anyway im not gonna argue with u everyone has the own opnion im jus puttin mine across
#66: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/LondonPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:32 am ---- rich you have decent tyres on your stretch and that helps plus your one of the most careful drivers i know! which is why with you its all good,
#67: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: Seabook, Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:34 am ---- Addaz, i though you are building a track car?
track car don't need strench tyre lol
#68: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: anthony_839, Location: romfordPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:45 am ---- any way as long as they are not thinner than they where orignaly then it will be fine :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
and if you want it to handle ok get smaller strech on front than rear
ie my pug had s**t thin wheels and 8 inch wide wheels with strech they still would had had more rubber on road than orignaly so win win
#69: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:57 am ---- Told you the V6 wouldn't happen
#70: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:14 am ---- look at these tyres lol ,stretched or what!
#71: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: europug, Location: londonPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:16 am ---- I no dan but my point is they were originaly and still are on high powered drift cars so they can take it
#72: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: anthony_839, Location: romfordPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:17 am ---- copied and pasted from another form
Interesting indeed.
I often think to myself- The idea of stretched tyres came from the drifting scene..... Surely one of the most tyre-punishing motorsports out there! If a stretched tyre can stay on while some japanese lunatic hangs the ar£e out on his AE86 at 80mph on a sweeping left-hander, then it should be safe enough for me to negotiate even the tightest of mini roundabouts on any given housing estate
Of course there's the decrease in traction etc etc. But you just have to drive within the limits of your set-up. I.e I wouldn't enter a corner at 80mph in a Micra with 145/80's on it and expect to come out the other end facing the right way. Changing your cars limitations is fine as long as you adhere to them IMO.
Usually the people who harp on about lack of traction with a modded car on stretched tyres are the same people who suggest to someone building some sort of mental 200bhp sleeper to "keep teh standard steels on it 4 teh full sleeper efect or it int a proper sleeper mate".
That looks f*****g stupid, and I don't mean the dudes hair. It just looks like the tyre doesn't fit properly
#74: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: anthony_839, Location: romfordPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:24 am ---- and another one
In lay mans terms - if the tyre is considered dangerous for the car to be driven on and there is a high risk of tyre mounting failure. What you're quoting is some vague reference simply saying that the tyre should be mounted correctly with a reasonable size of tyre suited to the rim. Where does that say that you can't have a bit of stretch on a tyre?
So you're telling me that Dunlop, Goodyear, Pirelli, Kumho etc etc are all giving bad advice? My mate is a tyre fitter and he keeps a chart on the computer of the manufacturers regulations. My dunlop FM901s are 235 wide and Dunlop say that they are fine for any tyres between 8 and 10 inches wide. Mine are 10". The rim protector on that tyre still is flush with the edge of the rim.
What you're also saying is that every high performance car manufacturer including Nissan, Porsche, Ferrari, Audi, BMW (who I'm currently working for) are all wrong? Go to their showrooms and take a look at the tyres. All slightly stretched because they need to have tyres with good response and performance. You're saying the tyre sidewall is made to withstand perpendicular angles to the treadface then why is the tyre made with the sidewalls sloping in so that when they're mounted they stretch outwards onto the bead? Bear in mind that the fact that the tyre has to be pulled out with the pressure to meet the bead on the rim means that it's stretched from it's original resting shape. Maybe you're saying the tyre tread doesn't sit flat on the road with a stretched tyre? Take a look at my tyre below and tell me it is bowed in. That's standard 32psi. You'll also find that FM901s have got a rim protector that sits out even if the tyre is not stretched. So your 45 degrees angle appears to be only about 10-15 degrees on mine.
One more thing. The laws on tints are very very specific and state exactly how much light is allowed through on the front 3 windows. I'm guessing because you've mentioned it that you know your tints are illegal? If that's the case the police simply aren't doing their job if they haven't mentioned it to you.
What you are saying is that stretching a tyre at all is illegal. You can see over on the other forum that the police can't even find regulations on it, Car manufacturers do it, Tyre companies have no problems with it. I've even ask on a local car forum where we have 3 or 4 resident policemen there to answer legal and road safety questions. One of them tried to dig up some info on the subject and basically came back saying, as long as the tyre is mounted correctly and isn't stupidly stretched, then it's fine. I've seen some crazy stretch on tyres and I agree it 'CAN' be dangerous but only to the guys who take it to crazy extremes.
Sorry but that quote you put above means nothing. You're in a debate that you simply can't win. And if I lose then I'll need to take all the engineers from the major car
#75: Re: The Stretched Tyre Debate: Safe or Stupid? Author: Danny., Location: PeterboroughPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:26 am ----
europug wrote:
Exactly do u never check your psi no offences?????
he justhas his nickers in a twist because Addaz said STFU to him...
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