#1: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:02 am ---- Had my car diagnosed by 2 other people 1 of them a very reptable company all for free as i do there IT for them.
but the error that keeps popping up is
Rpm sensor
neither of the companys seem to know what it is but can only guess crank or cam sensor witch both have been replaced.
I called pug they don't know they just ask to diagnose the car them selfs witch im sure it will say the same and they still wont know.
so any 1 got a clue? could it be that the sesnors i replaced 1 of them was faulty from new? Last edited by leigh_boy on Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:22 am; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:57 am ---- i didnt know there was an RPM sensor?
imo its most likely to be the Throttle position sensor, idle control valve, or MAP sensor, they all help to control the RPM
not 100% sure though becuase ive never heard of that fault before lol
#3: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:38 am ---- I think the crank sensor is called an RPM by Peugeot...try changing the crank sensor...only about £15 I think...
#4: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:46 am ----
leigh_boy wrote:
but can only guess crank or cam sensor witch both have been replaced.
lol, we know the error, but what is the actual problem with the car, it might help to narrow it down
#5: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:10 am ---- i went to pug and got another crank sensor for free
didnt fix the problem tho,
basicaly as you drive and hold the throttle it hesitates and ou cant hold it at an rpm you have to go through the revs witch makes doing 30 , 40 , 50 , 60 , 70 hard to do if you want to stay at that speed.
#6: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:15 am ---- hmm that is odd, doubt it would be the idle control valve then, maybe the throttle position sensors giving fluctuating readings? I would have thought that would have flagged up as a TPS code and not RPM though
#7: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:19 am ---- also is this crank sensor wiring normal?
#8: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:21 am ---- normal?
#9: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:27 am ---- ye, its doensnt look right the way its like heat wrapped then 2 wires
#10: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:38 am ---- It's CAN its fine.
I'd guess your TPS is at fault
#11: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Davels, Location: NorfolkPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:42 am ---- You want to hope it's not the TPS, the cheapest i've found for a replacement is a pug dealer at 123quid, eurocarparts don't even stock them and andrew page motor factors where asking for more than that.
#12: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 5:44 am ---- ebay?
yeh its wrapped like that to cancel out interference i think
#13: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:11 am ---- sesnor that have been replaced with NEW
coolent, crank sensor, cam sensor, TPS, Idle control valve, Air Temp sensor, 1 injector, o2 Sesnor and the map sensor
center exhaust pipe, rear box, spark plugs
also checked the timing yestaday
running out of things to change Last edited by leigh_boy on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:15 am; edited 4 times in total
#14: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:12 am ----
Lee wrote:
It's CAN its fine.
I'd guess your TPS is at fault
CAN ????
#15: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:23 am ---- What years the car?
Might be just the throttle thats messed up
#16: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:44 am ---- That wiring is normal.
This is what my plug looked like...the wiring is twisted through the shielded sleeving.
#17: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:00 pm ----
Lee wrote:
What years the car?
Might be just the throttle thats messed up
1999
#18: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:01 pm ----
Edward wrote:
That wiring is normal.
This is what my plug looked like...the wiring is twisted through the shielded sleeving.
dam thats clean, what is the that ontop of the thermostat housing? thats not standard isit? if it is i don't have 1 lol
#19: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:06 pm ---- It's a horrible coolant temp sensor for the Omex ECU. It sits in the hole that the bleed screw will be on yours. It's getting changed in a couple of weeks when my Samco hoses arrive (at last).
#20: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:26 pm ----
leigh_boy wrote:
sesnor that have been replaced with NEW
coolent, crank sensor, cam sensor, TPS, Idle control valve, Air Temp sensor, 1 injector, o2 Sesnor and the map sensor
center exhaust pipe, rear box, spark plugs
also checked the timing yestaday
running out of things to change
The car
You have wasted enough money on this one so far throwing new parts at it in an attempt to fix it
#21: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:28 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
leigh_boy wrote:
sesnor that have been replaced with NEW
coolent, crank sensor, cam sensor, TPS, Idle control valve, Air Temp sensor, 1 injector, o2 Sesnor and the map sensor
center exhaust pipe, rear box, spark plugs
also checked the timing yestaday
running out of things to change
The car
You have wasted enough money on this one so far throwing new parts at it in an attempt to fix it
it only cost me £280 to begin with so think its still wortha bit more hassle not much tho
#22: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:36 pm ----
leigh_boy wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
leigh_boy wrote:
sesnor that have been replaced with NEW
coolent, crank sensor, cam sensor, TPS, Idle control valve, Air Temp sensor, 1 injector, o2 Sesnor and the map sensor
center exhaust pipe, rear box, spark plugs
also checked the timing yestaday
running out of things to change
The car
You have wasted enough money on this one so far throwing new parts at it in an attempt to fix it
it only cost me £280 to begin with so think its still wortha bit more hassle not much tho
It sounds like your just slowly rebuilding the car from new parts & crossing your fingers one of these parts is gonna fix it.
#23: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:38 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
leigh_boy wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
leigh_boy wrote:
sesnor that have been replaced with NEW
coolent, crank sensor, cam sensor, TPS, Idle control valve, Air Temp sensor, 1 injector, o2 Sesnor and the map sensor
center exhaust pipe, rear box, spark plugs
also checked the timing yestaday
running out of things to change
The car
You have wasted enough money on this one so far throwing new parts at it in an attempt to fix it
it only cost me £280 to begin with so think its still wortha bit more hassle not much tho
It sounds like your just slowly rebuilding the car from new parts & crossing your fingers one of these parts is gonna fix it.
your about right on that 1, soon i will get an engine, and a ecu / wireing
#24: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:44 pm ---- back to what lee was saying whats CAN ?
#25: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:46 pm ----
leigh_boy wrote:
back to what lee was saying whats CAN ?
Controller Area Network
#26: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:52 pm ---- and the relivance to the question??
#27: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:54 pm ----
leigh_boy wrote:
and the relivance to the question??
Multiplexed 206's use it.
The wires twisted like that look like typical CAN twisted pair wiring.
#28: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:32 pm ----
leigh_boy wrote:
Lee wrote:
What years the car?
Might be just the throttle thats messed up
1999
so what could be messed up about the throttle?
#29: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:05 pm ---- Take it to a garage with either Pug Planet, Multi Di@g or Bosch KTS or something similar.
Not the w**ky generic EOBD readers
#30: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:14 pm ---- im going to book it in for ecu firmware updates next week its only £40 so will ask about diagnotics but don't want to spend loads at a dealer as i feel violated going to a dealer lol
#31: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:16 pm ---- Where do you live?
#32: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:12 am ---- lee, Eastbourne , Eastsussex bn23 8dx
#33: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:23 am ---- any other sugestions?
#34: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:50 am ---- ok so i have done some research , and the problem could be the air gap between the sensor and the fly wheel or ecu, any 1 know how to check the air gap??
#35: Re: RPM Sensor Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:36 am ---- It's not adjustable.
#36: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:39 am ---- ye i know but could a warped flywheel / warn / dirty teeth casue problems?
#37: Re: RPM Sensor Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:43 am ---- I Admit Defeat going to pug today for diags only
at £92 per hour im only having the 1 hour !!!
will update soon but im not convinced they will be able to tell me whats wrong and probabbly coe back with some spill about the ecu
#38: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:24 am ---- Im gonna if it comes back with an engine ecu software update or something simple like that
#39: Re: RPM Sensor Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:11 am ---- they will update your ecu, thats the first thing they always do and then see if the problem goes away, you dont get proper diagostics untill the second try in my experience lol
#40: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: leigh_boy, Location: EastbournePosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:23 am ---- SOLVED
PUG reccomend champion plugs, and not the bosh super 4s that are like 3 weeks old,
champion plugs, ecu was clear of fault
cost me £143 but its fixed so im happy.
#41: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: Didz, Location: UK, Isle of ManPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:29 am ---- niceone. could of been worse.
#42: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:44 am ---- result
#43: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: navcc, Location: wembleyPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 1:45 am ---- leigh-boy, can u please let me know the location of the CAM SENSOR for peugeot 206
thanks in advance
#44: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:22 am ---- I'll give you a clue, camshafts are at the top of the engine...the sensor will be found there!
#45: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:39 pm ---- First time ive read about super 4's giving problems.
#46: Re: RPM Sensor ( SOLVED) Author: navcc, Location: wembleyPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:32 am ---- Thanks Edward, I am sorry but please let me know that you have actually seen the CAMSHAFT SENSOR on the top of the engine? I also thought that the sensor should be near the camshaft, but as yet I failed to locate it.
your kind anwer will be much appreciated. Thanks again.
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going to pug today for diags only 
if it comes back with an engine ecu software update or something simple like that 
