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#1: removed Author: shellis PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:28 am
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#2: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: kieron, Location: in the house PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:41 am
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283mm discs but you will still get that horrible squeels as the 406 uses 302mm disc

#3: removed Author: shellis PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:42 am
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#4: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: benashley, Location: cornwall PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:57 am
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Not sure about wheels but you need discs from a GTi 180 there 283mm I think that gti6 ones are the same but not 100%. You can use xsara v6 discs which are 288mm and should stop the squeling but they more expensive and you might need to take a bit off the inside of the caliper to clear the disc.

#5: removed Author: shellis PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:01 pm
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#6: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: spike_202, Location: West mids PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:01 pm
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Gti-6 discs are thinner than 180s

#7: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: kieron, Location: in the house PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:04 pm
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gti6 are 24mm and 180 are 26 iirc, i dont think the squeeling will stop unless you fit the right size discs (302) i had them on mine and in the end went back to standard. also the master cyclinder needs to be bigger as you will have excessive break travel

#8: removed Author: shellis PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:06 pm
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#9: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: benashley, Location: cornwall PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:09 pm
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I think the squeel could be because the edge of the pad overlaps the disc slightly.If your cars standerd then there's no real reason to upgrade the brakes other than for looks. Decent discs, pads, fluid and braided hoses will make a big differnce but could end up costing as much as the 406 conversion done on a budget (standerd discs etc.)

#10: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: shellis PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:13 pm
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#11: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: kieron, Location: in the house PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:14 pm
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benashley wrote:
I think the squeel could be because the edge of the pad overlaps the disc slightly.If your cars standerd then there's no real reason to upgrade the brakes other than for looks. Decent discs, pads, fluid and braided hoses will make a big differnce but could end up costing as much as the 406 conversion done on a budget (standerd discs etc.)


thats right if you look at my pic on the bottom outer edge it dont break on it causing it to squeel. if you use 302mm disc you will need a bracket making up. i also forgot you will need 20mm wheel spacers as the caliper will hit the wheel due to the ofset of the 406 brembos

 

#12: removed Author: shellis PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:16 pm
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#13: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: benashley, Location: cornwall PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:36 pm
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shellis wrote:
nah braided lines are less than 50 and pads will be under 150 so i'll probably go down that route, discs are nearly new and fitting won't cost me anything.

the 406 calipers are starting to get more expensive on e-bay i've been watching a few heading towards the 200 quid mark!

Decent discs,pads and braided hoses will be £200-£250 + the fluid. Brembo conversion can be done for around £250-£300 with standerd discs and pads

#14: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:58 pm
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c4 vts discs.

#15: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:11 pm
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benashley wrote:
shellis wrote:
nah braided lines are less than 50 and pads will be under 150 so i'll probably go down that route, discs are nearly new and fitting won't cost me anything.

the 406 calipers are starting to get more expensive on e-bay i've been watching a few heading towards the 200 quid mark!

Decent discs,pads and braided hoses will be £200-£250 + the fluid. Brembo conversion can be done for around £250-£300 with standerd discs and pads

it all depends on the primary usage of the car.

more expensive, fanncy trackday pad wouldn't do any good on normal tesco trip driving

brembo disc+pad cost round 70-90 on a 2.0HDi.

#16: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: T18sty_206, Location: Luton, Beds PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:52 pm
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I've got these on my 206 without a 20mm spacer but i'm running 17's. I've got Xsara v6 discs and they squeel like a b***h. Still trying to find a way round it if anyone could help? They stop the car really well though. Oh and i also didn't have to uprate the master cylinder! standard gti 1.

#17: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:36 pm
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T18sty_206 wrote:
I've got these on my 206 without a 20mm spacer but i'm running 17's. I've got Xsara v6 discs and they squeel like a b***h. Still trying to find a way round it if anyone could help? They stop the car really well though. Oh and i also didn't have to uprate the master cylinder! standard gti 1.

all 206 has the same size of mc, regardless is 180gti or 1.1 independance

about the noise there is little you can do if you can only use 283/288 disc

#18: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: meady, Location: basingstoke PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:38 pm
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You can use rhe c4 vts discs i think thr are 302mm

#19: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:45 pm
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Seabook wrote:

all 206 has the same size of mc, regardless is 180gti or 1.1 independance

No they dont Wink

Non ABS 206 use a 20.6 mm or in rare cases a 22.2 mm diameter master cylinder

All 206's with ABS use the 22.2 mm diameter version.

#20: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:28 pm
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MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:

all 206 has the same size of mc, regardless is 180gti or 1.1 independance

No they dont Wink

Non ABS 206 use a 20.6 mm or in rare cases a 22.2 mm diameter master cylinder

All 206's with ABS use the 22.2 mm diameter version.

really glad mine is 22.2 and w/o ABS Razz

#21: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:05 am
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Seabook wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Seabook wrote:

all 206 has the same size of mc, regardless is 180gti or 1.1 independance

No they dont Wink

Non ABS 206 use a 20.6 mm or in rare cases a 22.2 mm diameter master cylinder

All 206's with ABS use the 22.2 mm diameter version.

really glad mine is 22.2 and w/o ABS Razz

Really glad mine is 22.2mm with ABS, EBD & EBA Laughing

No rear compensator valve to get rusted up Razz

#22: Re: 406 Brembo Brakes Author: Greg21, Location: Austria (Styria) PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 10:48 am
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I also have two questions:

1. Is it possible to use the original atlantis wheels with this discs?
2. Which size is better: 283 or 288?

Thanks



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