#1: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :((**SOLVED** Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:45 pm ---- Hi All,
Today I fitted a New front Bumper with Fog lights,my car didn't had ones before,so I fitted them today,and connected the plugs which where hooked behind the headlights,and I put a (15) fuse in the fuse box which in located in the engine bay in number (6),then I used the PP2000 to activate them,which I did,and it gave me the fog light light on the speedo,but the foglight didn't went on :(,so I wanna know what goes wrong,even though I tested the fog lights bulbs before I fit them,and they worked fine,so please help me.
Tim Last edited by Timon2210 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:21 pm; edited 1 time in total
#2: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:47 pm ---- Test to see if the +12v is reaching the fogs, if it is. Then is a earthing problem.
#3: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:54 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Test to see if the +12v is reaching the fogs, if it is. Then is a earthing problem.
Thank you so much for your fast reply :),will do that in the morning,because it's dark outside,it's 10:00 PM now :(,and see how it goes,I will keep you posted,thanx
So if it was an earthign problem,should I check the earthing points located under the headlights on (L+R)??
#4: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:55 pm ---- Yeah just get the earthing points, or run new earth wires.
The earths on the fogs are pretty s**te tbh
#5: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Bailey, Location: Finding Dr. RobotnikPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:58 pm ---- Think this has happened to mine. My car had working fogs before but now changed the front bumper and one side is now not working! Pain in the ass.
#6: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:23 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Test to see if the +12v is reaching the fogs, if it is. Then is a earthing problem.
Well you didn't mention the other side of the problem,which is "What if there is no +12v feed reaching the fogs??is there is a relay that I need to check,or they don't need relay??
#7: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:22 am ---- well I took the fogs plugs out,and I check by the voltmeter,but there is no +12v,it shows zero :(,so what can I do next??
#8: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:26 am ---- you say you used the loom from behind the headlights? Would this not be the other headlight loom that is in most 206s for either h4/h7 connectors? And not for fogs?
#9: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:29 am ---- 2006 should have crystals as standard, so the h7 will be in use.
So the spare one should be the 2 pin, grey connector for the fogs.
Test to see if power is reaching the fuse like I said.
Could always check the amps when you turn the fogs on, to see if it changes.
#10: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Matt, Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:15 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
you say you used the loom from behind the headlights? Would this not be the other headlight loom that is in most 206s for either h4/h7 connectors? And not for fogs?
This
#11: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:27 am ---- But the looms behind the headlights couldnt reach down to the fogs could they?
#12: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:12 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
you say you used the loom from behind the headlights? Would this not be the other headlight loom that is in most 206s for either h4/h7 connectors? And not for fogs?
Lee wrote:
2006 should have crystals as standard, so the h7 will be in use.
So the spare one should be the 2 pin, grey connector for the fogs.
Test to see if power is reaching the fuse like I said.
Could always check the amps when you turn the fogs on, to see if it changes.
As Lee said,I have H7 headlights,and I have the Grey plugs ready in the loom for foglights,and it's 2 Pin and fitted 100% on the fogs.
#13: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:14 am ----
DJ- wrote:
But the looms behind the headlights couldnt reach down to the fogs could they?
They reached down the fogs very well,it's made for that purpose,I will post pics soon
#14: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:27 am ----
Timon2210 wrote:
DJ- wrote:
But the looms behind the headlights couldnt reach down to the fogs could they?
They reached down the fogs very well,it's made for that purpose,I will post pics soon
no i mean the headlight looms could surely not reach to the fogs?? well mine dont!
#15: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:36 am ----
DJ- wrote:
Timon2210 wrote:
DJ- wrote:
But the looms behind the headlights couldnt reach down to the fogs could they?
They reached down the fogs very well,it's made for that purpose,I will post pics soon
no i mean the headlight looms could surely not reach to the fogs?? well mine dont!
Headlight looms are plugged into the headlamps
#16: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:38 am ----
Lee wrote:
DJ- wrote:
Timon2210 wrote:
DJ- wrote:
But the looms behind the headlights couldnt reach down to the fogs could they?
They reached down the fogs very well,it's made for that purpose,I will post pics soon
no i mean the headlight looms could surely not reach to the fogs?? well mine dont!
Headlight looms are plugged into the headlamps
exactly thus not long enough to reach fogs
#17: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:25 am ---- The front fog lights will spring in to life in a day or 2
#18: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:52 am ----
DJ- wrote:
Timon2210 wrote:
DJ- wrote:
But the looms behind the headlights couldnt reach down to the fogs could they?
They reached down the fogs very well,it's made for that purpose,I will post pics soon
no i mean the headlight looms could surely not reach to the fogs?? well mine dont!
Ohh..sorry,I thought you were talking about the Grey plugs behind the headlight ;),well the headlight looms will not reach the fogs..no way..hehe
#19: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:54 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
The front fog lights will spring in to life in a day or 2
Thank you so much :D,I hope that,I will pray for them..lol,because it start to drive me nuts..soon I will be
#20: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:14 am ---- 2 days went by,and the fogs still dead :(,I wonder if they are ever will spring to life
#21: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:18 am ----
Lee wrote:
2006 should have crystals as standard, so the h7 will be in use.
So the spare one should be the 2 pin, grey connector for the fogs.
Test to see if power is reaching the fuse like I said.
Could always check the amps when you turn the fogs on, to see if it changes.
Some 206's have both h7 and h4, just to clear that up.
Have you even got the fuse in the fuse box?
Turned on in the bsi?
#22: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:26 am ----
PugJH wrote:
Lee wrote:
2006 should have crystals as standard, so the h7 will be in use.
So the spare one should be the 2 pin, grey connector for the fogs.
Test to see if power is reaching the fuse like I said.
Could always check the amps when you turn the fogs on, to see if it changes.
Some 206's have both h7 and h4, just to clear that up.
Have you even got the fuse in the fuse box?
Turned on in the bsi?
Yeah I know they do. Bur a 2006 would have crystals as standard do using the H7 plug up, and a h4 wouldn't even come close to fitting in the fogs
#23: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:37 am ----
PugJH wrote:
Have you even got the fuse in the fuse box?
Turned on in the bsi?
I sure did put the fuse in the fuse box,and Turned on in the BSI as well,I was not waiting for a miracle you know..LOL ;),but I guess you didn't read my thread 100%
#24: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: PugJH, Location: NorthantsPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:48 pm ---- I looked over it yeah, else i wouldnt of posted, but help on here isnt easy to find, shall remember not to bother next time.
My point was have you got the correct fuse for fogs, *yep seem right*, i had to fit a new one to mine, also had to get bsi turned on *youve done this*, and i had the extra fog cables aswel.
Has the stalk been sorted to control fogs? or extra switch for it?
PS i was in a rush before when replying
#25: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:50 pm ----
PugJH wrote:
I looked over it yeah, else i wouldnt of posted, but help on here isnt easy to find, shall remember not to bother next time.
My point was have you got the correct fuse for fogs, *yep seem right*, i had to fit a new one to mine, also had to get bsi turned on *youve done this*, and i had the extra fog cables aswel.
Has the stalk been sorted to control fogs? or extra switch for it?
PS i was in a rush before when replying
I remember you had to swop your BM34 fuse box as the front fog fuse position was missing in your original one even though you had the wiring.
#26: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:59 pm ---- when i retrofitted fogs 'properly', all i had to do was swap the engine bay fuse box for one with the fog fuse (F6?) as my original one was blanked off, plug in the factory plugs that were taped up in the engine bay, and finally reconfigure the BSI settings.
this was initially using a comm2000 without a front fog symbol, but worked with the stalk twist mechanism all the same.
as your car is a 2006 i wonder if there is something additionally required?
i think this as cruise control has been successully retrofitted to 2006 and younger cars, but i don't think anyone has managed it on older cars - perhaps it's linked?
#27: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:10 pm ----
PugJH wrote:
I looked over it yeah, else i wouldnt of posted, but help on here isnt easy to find, shall remember not to bother next time.
My point was have you got the correct fuse for fogs, *yep seem right*, i had to fit a new one to mine, also had to get bsi turned on *youve done this*, and i had the extra fog cables aswel.
Has the stalk been sorted to control fogs? or extra switch for it?
PS i was in a rush before when replying
You didn't bother me at all,and your help is always welcome :),but being in rush that made you reply that way,so it's ok :).
Anyway,as said new fuse in place,BSI activated,but my stalk was only for rear fog light,but when checking on PP2000,the puls is working very well,and it turn on the front and back,but the front don't work
#28: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:12 pm ----
skard wrote:
when i retrofitted fogs 'properly', all i had to do was swap the engine bay fuse box for one with the fog fuse (F6?) as my original one was blanked off, plug in the factory plugs that were taped up in the engine bay, and finally reconfigure the BSI settings.
this was initially using a comm2000 without a front fog symbol, but worked with the stalk twist mechanism all the same.
as your car is a 2006 i wonder if there is something additionally required?
i think this as cruise control has been successully retrofitted to 2006 and younger cars, but i don't think anyone has managed it on older cars - perhaps it's linked?
mine got the fuse holder,and there is +12v in the fuse,which means it's working,this is so confusing
#29: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:14 pm ---- Take the grey plug of the back of each front foglight, turn the front foglights on & see if there's 12 volts at each grey plug using a multimeter.
#30: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:23 pm ---- Have you replaced the stalk with the correct front and rear stalk?
#31: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:25 pm ----
mattievrs wrote:
Have you replaced the stalk with the correct front and rear stalk?
No need its multiplexed
Just needs the BSI config tweaking with PPS
#32: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: mattievrs, Location: LeicesterPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:27 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
mattievrs wrote:
Have you replaced the stalk with the correct front and rear stalk?
No need its multiplexed
Just needs the BSI config tweaking with PPS
Ahh ok.
Then in my opinion they dont work either because of a poor earth or they arent part of the fog light looms.
#33: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:39 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Take the grey plug of the back of each front foglight, turn the front foglights on & see if there's 12 volts at each grey plug using a multimeter.
I already done that,and checked it with multimeter,and the fuse in the F6 is 15M brand new,but there is nooo +12v in any of the 2 plugs
#34: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:53 am ----
mattievrs wrote:
Then in my opinion they dont work either because of a poor earth or they arent part of the fog light looms.
Well they said this before,but no one told me what earthing should I check,the one behind the headlights on each side for the headlights loom,or does the foglight have a seprate earthing??so can you please show it with pics if available??
#35: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:55 am ---- This is a pic of my cluster,and as you can see I have the 2 fog lights icons on,for the front and back,the front don't work,but the rear is working fine.
So is there something have to be checking inside the car (BSI)fuse or something missing???
#36: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:10 am ---- and here I used the fuse:
#37: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:48 am ---- no more comments I see :(...the fogs is doomed..hehe
#38: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:45 am ---- 12 volts at the connector in the fuse box?
#39: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:44 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
12 volts at the connector in the fuse box?
Which connector you are talking about??,because I was thinking of taking out the fuse box tomorrow,and check the wiring that goes for the foglights/lighting loom,but any help from your side would be much appriciated :D,ty
#40: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: HDiMan, Location: high wycombe.BucksPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:57 pm ---- According to some Peugeot instructions i found on retrofitting foglights the engine bay fusebox needs changing you should have BSM B2 presently fitted and you need to fit BSM No PR 6500.P4
It also says remove F2 fuse on fitting new part if your car is not equipped with an electrical fuel pump ie DW8 ENGINE.
You also need to enable the foglight option in BSI but i think you have already done that
The instructions came from the foglight upgrade part no 9682L4 multiplexed 2002 onwards for non-sport front bumpers but the fusebox part or the stalk (comm 2000 with F &R FOGLIGHTS) isn't included.I got it cheap on ebay to replace some broken foglights,so i haven't done the upgrade myself.
#41: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:01 am ----
Timon2210 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
12 volts at the connector in the fuse box?
Which connector you are talking about??,because I was thinking of taking out the fuse box tomorrow,and check the wiring that goes for the foglights/lighting loom,but any help from your side would be much appriciated :D,ty
The one where you have slotted the extra fuse in for F6 position.
Is there 12 volts on the metal terminal where the fuse connected?
#42: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:13 am ----
HDiMan wrote:
According to some Peugeot instructions i found on retrofitting foglights the engine bay fusebox needs changing you should have BSM B2 presently fitted and you need to fit BSM No PR 6500.P4
It also says remove F2 fuse on fitting new part if your car is not equipped with an electrical fuel pump ie DW8 ENGINE.
You also need to enable the foglight option in BSI but i think you have already done that
The instructions came from the foglight upgrade part no 9682L4 multiplexed 2002 onwards for non-sport front bumpers but the fusebox part or the stalk (comm 2000 with F &R FOGLIGHTS) isn't included.I got it cheap on ebay to replace some broken foglights,so i haven't done the upgrade myself.
I will check the number of the fuse box I have fitted now,and match it with the number you gave me,and see if it match or not,thank you for your reply
#43: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 10:15 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Timon2210 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
12 volts at the connector in the fuse box?
Which connector you are talking about??,because I was thinking of taking out the fuse box tomorrow,and check the wiring that goes for the foglights/lighting loom,but any help from your side would be much appriciated :D,ty
The one where you have slotted the extra fuse in for F6 position.
Is there 12 volts on the metal terminal where the fuse connected?
Yes there is +12v on the metal terminal on the F6 position.
#44: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:37 am ---- any new Ideas mates??
#45: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:55 am ---- Can someone who got foglights originally send me a pic of his/her car fuse box which is located in the engine bay??,I would like to see if I got the right fuse box.
#46: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :(( Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:20 pm ---- **Update 19-4-2011-The problem is solved and the foglights are working now,the solution for it was by replacing my current fuse box that is located in the engine bay with a new one,I had the (BSM B2),and I replaced it with ( BSM B3),and everything worked great,it's like magic..lol,here is some pic of the fuse boxs:
This is my Old fuse box:
And this is the new one:
and I gave it a nice clean after I done working on it
And here is pics of the fogs working
Thank you for your help,and a Special thanx to (HDiMan) because he gave me the thought of replacing the fuse box :).Finallyyyyy
Cheers,
Tim Last edited by Timon2210 on Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:58 pm; edited 1 time in total
#47: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :((**SOLVED** Author: skard, Location: UK - NorthPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:29 pm ---- happy days and well done.
#48: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :((**SOLVED** Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:57 pm ----
skard wrote:
happy days and well done.
Thank you my friend
#49: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :((**SOLVED** Author: HDiMan, Location: high wycombe.BucksPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:30 pm ---- Glad the info helped and it's all working now.It was lucky i kept the fitting instructions,incase someone on here needed them!!
#50: Re: Front Fog Lights....NO Joyyy :((**SOLVED** Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:17 pm ----
HDiMan wrote:
Glad the info helped and it's all working now.It was lucky i kept the fitting instructions,incase someone on here needed them!!
Thank you again,well I'm glad you kept the instructions as well,I keep all the instructions for the things I buy,because they will be useful someday,like your were in my problem
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