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Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are!
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#1: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:55 pm
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Test drove a few new cars, a new Mazda 3 and Mondeo Titanium, and compared to our car the road noise is suprising. Infact in the Mazda it was so bad the wife couldn't hear us talking in the front at 70mph! Has anyone been any cars either Focus or Mondeo size that are quiet? Might test drive a 57 plate Audi A4/6 and see how that is.

Incase your wondering how come my 180 is so quiet, it's because I gutted it and Second Skin'd it quite significantly. Then a change to 4 new Uniroyal Rainsort 2's dropped another 2-3Db I reckon. Until a have tested these newer cars I didn't realise how much it was. I new it was good, but this proves it.. Except for the damn Scorpion exhasut Confused

#2: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Seabook PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:01 pm
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well to be fair, mazda 3 is just cheap buget car in asian. (like 106, saxo in uk)

mondeo should be quite quiet and certainly A4

#3: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:04 pm
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The Mazda 3 is a Focus underneath isn't it?

#4: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: M60SHW, Location: Carlisle PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:04 pm
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Toyota prius .... Razz

#5: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/Dronfield PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:12 pm
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Shaw-pug wrote:
Toyota prius .... Razz

Get out, just get out now

Mondeo FTW!

Last edited by Jay794 on Tue May 10, 2011 5:49 am; edited 1 time in total

#6: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: MNARAA, Location: In a traffic jam PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:27 pm
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Phantom? Thats fairly quiet unless you take full advantage of the 6.5 V12.

What do you mean its out of your budget? Honestly, no pleasing some people Smile

#7: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton Keynes PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:39 pm
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Mates 57 plate focus is just silent inside.

#8: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:04 pm
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Seabook wrote:
well to be fair, mazda 3 is just cheap buget car in asian. (like 106, saxo in uk)

mondeo should be quite quiet and certainly A4

Er, but the mazda 3 is the size of a 308! And jap cars are usually quite and when built.. Not uite german but better than EU cars usually.

#9: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:04 pm
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Edward wrote:
The Mazda 3 is a Focus underneath isn't it?


Yep

#10: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:06 pm
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Was looking at the Focus and might drive one at weekend but I find it hard to believe it is quiter than the Mondeo.. The Mondeo was the top spec with 18 inch RS rims on it, maybe the low pros didnt help the noise, but still they aint that low.

#11: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Antknee, Location: Manchester PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:21 pm
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my dads 59 focus is a beast and is ridiculously quiet

#12: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: D4NTP, Location: Not Leeds or its surrounding areas! PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:36 pm
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My Audi is the quietest car i've had, mind you it's multitronic so it's doing about 1800rpm at 70, which helps

#13: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Lewis1304, Location: Nuneaton PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:47 pm
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My experience with mazdas have always been good, my dad having a 6, 6 MPS and now a 6 sport and they are soo quiet! The 3s are quiet too and very reliable compared to french crap Smile Japanese cars are either built to be loud or built to be quiet... they kind of know what they are doing.

Lewis

#14: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:48 pm
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Before any one starts with the its a Citroen well you can suck my balls Laughing

The new C4 is really good Smile

#15: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton Keynes PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:51 pm
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Matties right, c4 is quiet too, just fugly.

#16: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: -Dave-, Location: North Manchester PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:02 pm
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We have a New standard Punto and that's quiet as hell, Which is surprising as it's made out of plastic.

#17: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: benbmx08, Location: newquay PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:06 pm
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sounds like u want a vw jetta (exactly the same as A4), nice motor, im sure edward would agree

#18: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: no_offences, Location: Leeds PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:28 pm
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you sound like a grandad, id rather have a noisy fun involing fast car then a quiet drab boring family saloon,

#19: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Ash, Location: Running from Ant and Lee and Adam........... PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:45 am
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D4NTP wrote:
My Audi is the quietest car i've had, mind you it's multitronic so it's doing about 1800rpm at 70, which helps

Same. Multitronic too... But lovely on the motorway. Goes like a beast too...

The 5 Series (09) was mint on the motorway too. Put it this way, we erm... "tested" the performance of it and even at 'certain' speeds, the noise levels were brilliant.

#20: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:28 am
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no_offences wrote:
you sound like a grandad, id rather have a noisy fun involing fast car then a quiet drab boring family saloon,


Ok, well so would I for playing around in and a weekend car, but lets be honest, the 206 is hardly that fast, maybe fun.. and prior to the sound proofing very noisy for all the wrong reasons. However for journeys over 200 miles, with 3 passengers and luggage that kind of car is nothing but tiring, and in the 206 all but impossible. Firm suspension and noisy exhausts do not a comfortable journey make.. Hence why I will be getting myself a 'weekend' car at later date!

I'm suprised at the responses, as I have not found any of the cars I have been in to be quiet or silent in anyway. Far from it. I meant to get a Db meter app for my phone and try it, though they are not accurate and I have no way of calibrating it, I can compare it with the 180 readings.

The mazda 3 was awful. The brochure even goes on to mention lowest drag coefficient in class and road and wind noise all but non existent... Well at 70mph, the wife in the back couldn't hear what was being said between me and the sales man in the front.. And to me, that says it all!

I'm interested to try the A4, however I'm completely gob smakked that not 1 of the 10+ I have sat in have an arm rest which is just stupid IMO. Also it's quite small inside for it's size, I'm 6'4 and when in the driving position, getting behind my seat is very hard. Hence the look to the A6 which is still less roomy than the Mondeo.

Going to availablecar again tonight, will try out some other options.. I liked the Lexus Is220 but wife doesn't and boot is small anyway, so thats out for start.

#21: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton Keynes PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:24 am
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Do you like the passat cc? They are a nice car to drive.

#22: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:26 am
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Golf GT TSI 160 (twincharger)
As fast as a 180, as economical as a diesel, and is a VW.

When I took it to RSTuning to go on the dyno the bloke who drove it asked if it was electric.
That's quiet.

For a totally quiet ride avoid the 18" alloy wheel option (assuming you have £21k to spare)

#23: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/London PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:31 am
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Antix wrote:
Golf GT TSI 160 (twincharger)
As fast as a 180, as economical as a diesel, and is a VW.

When I took it to RSTuning to go on the dyno the bloke who drove it asked if it was electric.
That's quiet.

For a totally quiet ride avoid the 18" alloy wheel option (assuming you have £21k to spare)

this^

even the mark 5 is a quiet car! traveling normally its lovely even on trips to germany and back! but giving it some beans makes the exhaust a lil more gutsy and a good sound from the S/C and T/C.

o and the mark 5 is 170bhp so better then the 6! lol

#24: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Didz, Location: UK, Isle of Man PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:36 am
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father inlaws astra is quiet. cant remember the badge but its the top end diesel version with the sport button and 6 forward gears.
drove it to and from the airport. nice car

#25: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:46 am
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If you do have a good budget should try the Top Gear Car of The year too Wink Wink

Very nice to drive, econical (1.6 HDi 110), quiet like you want, and looks pretty cool to Cool

#26: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton Keynes PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:48 am
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Mattie-DS3 wrote:
If you do have a good budget should try the Top Gear Car of The year too Wink Wink

Very nice to drive, econical (1.6 HDi 110), quiet like you want, and looks pretty cool to Cool

DOH!!! Dont listen to him Razz

#27: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Kersh, Location: Bridgnorth, Nr Wolverhampton PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:51 am
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Antix wrote:
Golf GT TSI 160 (twincharger)
As fast as a 180, as economical as a diesel, and is a VW.

When I took it to RSTuning to go on the dyno the bloke who drove it asked if it was electric.
That's quiet.

For a totally quiet ride avoid the 18" alloy wheel option (assuming you have £21k to spare)

stranger Waving o/

#28: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Dillon, Location: Kent PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:54 am
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Mattie-DS3 wrote:
If you do have a good budget should try the Top Gear Car of The year too Wink Wink

Very nice to drive, econical (1.6 HDi 110), quiet like you want, and looks pretty cool to Cool

And the 200 mile trip @65 Razz Wink

#29: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Mattie-RS, Location: A Track near you ;) PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:02 am
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Dillon wrote:
Mattie-DS3 wrote:
If you do have a good budget should try the Top Gear Car of The year too Wink Wink

Very nice to drive, econical (1.6 HDi 110), quiet like you want, and looks pretty cool to Cool

And the 200 mile trip @65mpg Razz Wink


Edited for thee Truth hehe

<3
t**t

#30: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Big_Rich180 PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:04 am
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Mattie-DS3 wrote:
Dillon wrote:
Mattie-DS3 wrote:
If you do have a good budget should try the Top Gear Car of The year too Wink Wink

Very nice to drive, econical (1.6 HDi 110), quiet like you want, and looks pretty cool to Cool

And the 200 mile trip @65mpg Razz Wink


Edited for thee Truth hehe

<3
t**t

If your blind Laughing

#31: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Furballs2000, Location: Ashford PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:22 am
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My mates got a 2001 s class, if you want quiet and spacious get one of them!! Its weird how quietly it picks up a lot of speed(has a 5.0 V8!) really comfy as well!!

Me, I don't worry about noise.

#32: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:53 am
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Went and drove an Audi A6 2.0 S Line and a Focus 2.0 TDCI S yesterday.

The Focus was suprisingly nice to drive, felt bigger than it was, and was surprisingly quiet. 65mph came without any noise to speak of. The wife always comments how nice it is to do 70 in a car and not know it, unlike the 206 which sounds like it's doing 100 at 60! In the front it seemed quieter than the Mondeo :s In the back was quite a lot of road noise but thats easily fixed from the boot. However, it's pretty plasticy, and hard plastics too all over the door cards etc. And for a 2.0 TDi, sloow.

Tha A6 was just a different league unsurprisingly. Lovely and quiet, with a 7! speed semi auto gearbox, and sequential paddle shift! Me like a lot! Not so keen on the VAG styling in the middle of the dash. IMO every VAG car dashboard looks so dated you could be sat in a car from 15 years ago an not know. Always red, hint of blue light and plain square plastic styling and buttons everywhere. However only the one section in the middle where the AC controls are was like that. Also felt suprisingly swift, and quicker then the Focus considering it's extra weight and same 140Hp. Very tempting. But it's a BIG car, and doesn't have parking sensors as standard, and well, i'm pretty sure the wife will prang it pretty quickly :/

As you may have guessed VAG cars are generally out for me. Liked the Leon FR, sat inside, fell asleep from sheer boredom and got out.. Nope. So dissapointing.

The Passat CC looks nice, but is probably the same dull VAG inside and most importantly out of price range I think.

Still to drive a Civic but TBH, after the A6, we may be wasting our time. The inside is not the far off feeling like the Mondeo though in some respects, so we'll see.

So far the Mondeo or Audi seem most likely though the noise in the Mondeo is concerning me, and the running cost of the Audi will no doubt be pricy. Boot is also a bit awkward in the Audi.

#33: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Antix, Location: Worcester PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:26 am
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Kersh wrote:
Antix wrote:
Golf GT TSI 160 (twincharger)
As fast as a 180, as economical as a diesel, and is a VW.

When I took it to RSTuning to go on the dyno the bloke who drove it asked if it was electric.
That's quiet.

For a totally quiet ride avoid the 18" alloy wheel option (assuming you have £21k to spare)

stranger Waving o/

call in for coffee sometime Joe Thumb Up lol

#34: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: clarky78, Location: Nottinghamshire PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:05 am
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Decision was made. Mondeo Titanium X Sport 2.2 175...

It's sure a lot nicer to drive than the pug, but at the same time I miss the immediacy of the pug.. Just cruise around in the Mondy, it's so much more refined and quieter (the engine and exhaust drone, not road noise). Petty the stereo sucks even though it has the £1800 sat nav option! Waste of money IMO, but it was fitted so.

Still not sure it's the right decision, Audi was quiter, had better stereo, and possibly better economy. Can't get the MPG anything like the quoted on the mondeo.. Average 43-44MPG driving like it was worth a billion pounds and made of crystal!

#35: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: lofty, Location: Near Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:47 am
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Honda Civic?

I test drove one and it was very comfy...even had an arm rest!

#36: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/Dronfield PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:49 am
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A Civic really? never really thought they were quiet

#37: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: lofty, Location: Near Manchester PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:57 am
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It was alright from what i remember.
Very comfy, I drove the average 1.8 model that left me a bit underwhelmed on the performance.
Standard kit was nice and I just couldn't fault the driving position.

Maybe check out a type S if comfort is more your thing?

Edit: Comfort WITH power Smile

#38: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:03 am
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The Civic interior is very plasticky...

#39: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on Trent PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:05 am
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The mondeo will more than likley start to rust after 2 miles as its a ford lol

#40: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:07 am
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and despite being a really good car will be worth nothing too.

#41: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/Dronfield PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:13 am
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Andy180 wrote:
The mondeo will more than likley start to rust after 2 miles as its a ford lol

Depends how old it is, newer Fords are a lot less prone to rusting. My girlfriend has a Fiesta ST and there's no signs of rusting yet

#42: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:26 am
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There are plenty of MK1 Focus RS's out there with corrosion behind the bumpers. They should not be rusty at such an age.

#43: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/Dronfield PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:27 am
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You seem to be forgetting that the MK1 RS was s**t, you couldn't steer and brake at the same time lol

#44: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Rob2859, Location: Halifax PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:52 am
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I'm told DS3's are horrible Wink

#45: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 6:01 am
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Jay794 wrote:
Andy180 wrote:
The mondeo will more than likley start to rust after 2 miles as its a ford lol

Depends how old it is, newer Fords are a lot less prone to rusting. My girlfriend has a Fiesta ST and there's no signs of rusting yet

i have seen rust on a 09 Ka Laughing

#46: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: Aar_Im_A_Pirate, Location: Northern Ireland PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 7:05 am
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Rob2859 wrote:
I'm told DS3's are horrible Wink

Nope, nice shiney black dashboard and a pleasure to drive.

#47: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/Dronfield PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:34 am
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Seabook wrote:
Jay794 wrote:
Andy180 wrote:
The mondeo will more than likley start to rust after 2 miles as its a ford lol

Depends how old it is, newer Fords are a lot less prone to rusting. My girlfriend has a Fiesta ST and there's no signs of rusting yet

i have seen rust on a 09 Ka Laughing

You seem to be forgetting that KAs's again, are s**t lol

#48: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars ar Author: Andy180, Location: Stoke on Trent PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:54 am
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Most fords are s**te to be fair lol

#49: Re: Replacing the 180, dissapointed by how noisy new cars are! Author: coopskin, Location: Hull, East Yorkshire PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:57 am
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Aar_Im_A_Pirate wrote:
Rob2859 wrote:
I'm told DS3's are horrible Wink

Nope, nice shiney black dashboard and a pleasure to drive.

cant be that good as a guy on here has just traded his in lol



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