#1: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:16 am ---- Is it just me or does the proper hatchback petrol model XSI seem a tad rare? It's not very often I see one on the roads or for sale for that matter. So whats going on? Did they not make that many of them? Or does all the owners have them hidden away in a garage.
I want an XSI next, it's only £100 more for the year on insurance than my 1.4 LX so cant complain. But it's finding one for the right price etc.
Also what seems even rarer is the phase 1's (Dont want a phase 2 really cant be botherd with the whole BSI trouble etc, rather stick with a badly designed electrical system that doesnt take too much to fix when it goes wrong) is the leather interior. Ive seen a few phase 2's with them quite readily availible. But phase 1 seems like asking for blood from a stone.
#2: Re: Am I blind? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:19 am ---- My XSI is half Phase 1 Half Phase 2. And I have the Half leather Interior.
#3: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:20 am ----
Suicidalsoldi3r wrote:
My XSI is half Phase 1 Half Phase 2. And I have the Half leather Interior.
How the hell does that work? From factory? Or did you get the spanners out yourself?
#4: Re: Am I blind? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:23 am ---- From Factory Mate, It is all Phase 2 now but Mine is A 02 plate which I believe is when they started the switchover from phase 1 to phase 2. I had stuff like phase 2 wash jet's but phase 1 rear light's.
#5: Re: Am I blind? Author: 2-0-6-9-3, Location: WiltshirePosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:25 am ----
Suicidalsoldi3r wrote:
My XSI is half Phase 1 Half Phase 2. And I have the Half leather Interior.
my friends 1.4 is like that. He has a 52 plate, has all the multiplex parts like new headunit, new indicator stalks etc but the phase 1 bumper and phase 1 clouded headlights
#6: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:28 am ---- Phase 2 is NOTHING to do with multiplexing
Multiplexing was from september 2001
Phase 2 didnt come round till late 2003
#7: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:29 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Phase 2 is NOTHING to do with multiplexing
Multiplexing was from september 2001
Phase 2 didnt come round till late 2003
My bad... In that case I want one Pre september 2001!
#8: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:31 am ---- Nothing wrong with a multiplexed 206.
Its when people start dicking around with the electrics that problems start
#9: Re: Am I blind? Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:31 am ---- multiplexed ones arent bad at all though unless you maybe want intense engine mods then it would prove abit more difficult than preplexed. I wouldnt touch a too old one when new ones are cheap these days!
#10: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:32 am ---- Id much rather have a multiplexed XSI.
#11: Re: Am I blind? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:34 am ---- Can't f*** about as much with mux tho
Well you can, but when people don't know what they are doing, thats when you get sky high repair bills
#12: Re: Am I blind? Author: -Dave-, Location: North ManchesterPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:34 am ---- The XSI was a XS before 2002 was it not? My car is multiplexed and I have never had a issue with it apart from a flat battery.
#13: Re: Am I blind? Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:36 am ---- nope the xs and xsi are seperate! 8v vs 16v engine and obvious bits like bumpers etc!
#14: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:38 am ---- Hmmm.... Im not so sure now. Ive just heard too many bad storys about the multiplexed system. I do like to mess around with electrics as well. So i'd be constatntly thinking what am I going to upset now.
I dont completly p**s about with stuff. Just id want my aftermarket HU in there along with the amp. Also Ive got a few light strips etc Id want to throw in so would need to splice into some live's from somewhere.
#15: Re: Am I blind? Author: Mrs_Howey, Location: WorthingPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:38 am ---- Mine is a 52 plate is phase 2 inside and was phase 1 outside which i'm glad about as it's not hard to change the outside to phase 2
Well heres a few that ive just found on ebay and there was plenty more on there, so i wouldn't say its was like getting blood from a stone
None of which have the leather interior which I want. Thats the getting blood from a stone bit.
Full black leather interior is pretty rare even these days.
I retro fitted full black leather interior to my GLX back in 07, came out of a GTI being turned in to track car.
Retro fitted the side airbags as well
#24: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:46 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Full black leather interior is pretty rare even these days.
I retro fitted full black leather interior to my GLX back in 07, came out of a GTI being turned in to track car.
Retro fitted the side airbags as well
What dya mean Retro fitted? Did the GLX come with side airbags as standard?
#25: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:48 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
What dya mean Retro fitted? Did the GLX come with side airbags as standard?
No
Wiring is there though as it uses the same cabin loom & BSI unit as the XSI & GTI spec
Basic plug & play with the sill sensors & correct airbag ecu fitted.
#26: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:54 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
What dya mean Retro fitted? Did the GLX come with side airbags as standard?
No
Wiring is there though as it uses the same cabin loom & BSI unit as the XSI & GTI spec
Basic plug & play with the sill sensors & correct airbag ecu fitted.
Simples! As the meerkats would say then.
Think that could be an option i'd just rather it be factory fit. I'm not 100% sure id trust myself fitting the front seats. If something where to happen and it was something to major to somebody in the front I think i'd live the rest of my life constantly wondering would they be in that state if I'd left the seats as they where. Im not saying it will happen, just another one of those what if situations I could never forget.
#27: Re: Am I blind? Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:55 pm ---- Change front seats in 10 mins, max
#28: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:58 pm ----
Lee wrote:
Change front seats in 10 mins, max
4 bolts hold each front seat in.
If the bolts are all tightened correctly the seats will be fine just as if they had been factory fitted.
#29: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:02 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
Lee wrote:
Change front seats in 10 mins, max
4 bolts hold each front seat in.
If the bolts are all tightened correctly the seats will be fine just as if they had been factory fitted.
I know it's a job so simple a monkey could do it. It's just the way my mind works if you get me. With everything I constantly think what if? Bit annoying at times can put me off doing something I really want to. :/
#30: Re: Am I blind? Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:05 pm ----
#31: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:06 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Lee wrote:
Change front seats in 10 mins, max
4 bolts hold each front seat in.
If the bolts are all tightened correctly the seats will be fine just as if they had been factory fitted.
I know it's a job so simple a monkey could do it. It's just the way my mind works if you get me. With everything I constantly think what if? Bit annoying at times can put me off doing something I really want to. :/
Borrow a torque wrench if your that worried
99% of people find FT is good enough on seat bolts.
#32: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 1:06 pm ----
#33: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:12 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Lee wrote:
Change front seats in 10 mins, max
4 bolts hold each front seat in.
If the bolts are all tightened correctly the seats will be fine just as if they had been factory fitted.
I know it's a job so simple a monkey could do it. It's just the way my mind works if you get me. With everything I constantly think what if? Bit annoying at times can put me off doing something I really want to. :/
Borrow a torque wrench if your that worried
99% of people find FT is good enough on seat bolts.
See what I can find when I have the money. If I can get one with the leather allready in I will, if not I geuss the socket sets will be coming out.
#34: Re: Am I blind? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:58 am ---- I found there are loads of xsi (for sale that is) but fewer xs which is a shame, insurance was a lot more for me.
#35: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:21 pm ----
Harry wrote:
I found there are loads of xsi (for sale that is) but fewer xs which is a shame, insurance was a lot more for me.
What so the XS is cheaper on insurance than the XSI for you?
#36: Re: Am I blind? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:25 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
Harry wrote:
I found there are loads of xsi (for sale that is) but fewer xs which is a shame, insurance was a lot more for me.
What so the XS is cheaper on insurance than the XSI for you?
XS is a lower spec.
Thirsty 8 valve 1.6 engine.
Most XS have rear drum brakes with NO abs.
#37: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:35 pm ----
MrBSI wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
Harry wrote:
I found there are loads of xsi (for sale that is) but fewer xs which is a shame, insurance was a lot more for me.
What so the XS is cheaper on insurance than the XSI for you?
XS is a lower spec.
Thirsty 8 valve 1.6 engine.
Most XS have rear drum brakes with NO abs.
So I geuss its the same lump as the Saxo VTR then?
Never looked at the XS if im honest. Just the XSI is about £100 more on the insurance for the year than my 1.4 LX so cant complain too much haha
#38: Re: Am I blind? Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:38 pm ---- Dont get an XS.
#39: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:44 pm ---- I wasnt planning too, dont want another 8v, wanna join the 16v and be cool
XSI FTW
#40: Re: Am I blind? Author: Harry, Location: StaffordPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:47 pm ----
LeeThr wrote:
Harry wrote:
I found there are loads of xsi (for sale that is) but fewer xs which is a shame, insurance was a lot more for me.
What so the XS is cheaper on insurance than the XSI for you?
Yep from a 1.4 8v
XS was an extra £17.50
XSI was an extra £551 :l
#41: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:47 pm ---- Just looked in your profile and realised you have an XS. Is it really that bad?
#42: Re: Am I blind? Author: Jay794, Location: Sheffield/Chesterfield/DronfieldPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:51 pm ---- My DTurbo had phase 2 washer jets but phase 1 everything else when I got it
#43: Re: Am I blind? Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:53 pm ---- Yes its awful. Thirsty, stupidly expensive to tax and the slowest of all the TU5 engines. w**k.
#44: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:56 pm ----
Harry wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
Harry wrote:
I found there are loads of xsi (for sale that is) but fewer xs which is a shame, insurance was a lot more for me.
What so the XS is cheaper on insurance than the XSI for you?
Yep from a 1.4 8v
XS was an extra £17.50
XSI was an extra £551 :l
Jesus that aint good. Was looking at insurance on my 1.4 the other day as mines due in about 6 weeks times just to get an idea. Came up about £1380 I think it was. Put in the reg for an XSI and it came up at £1450. Considering there 7 insurance groups apart seems quite reasonable.
#45: Re: Am I blind? Author: LeeThr, Location: North West WalesPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:58 pm ----
Howey wrote:
Yes its awful. Thirsty, stupidly expensive to tax and the slowest of all the TU5 engines. w**k.
Sounds familiar to how my 1.4 is. Pile of crap haha. Anybody here got any scare stories with the XSI? What kind of MPG am i looking at? What about tax?
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as it's not hard to change the outside to phase 2
