#31: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: stevedude, Location: aldershotPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:54 pm ---- gazza, why didnt you try pug planet if ya was spending that much?
#32: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:09 pm ----
stevedude wrote:
gazza, why didnt you try pug planet if ya was spending that much?
It's amazing how many people f*** their car up when they have dealer software and don't know what they are doing. because it's so easy when they think "oh lets try this to see what this does"
Also its ISO 9141 - 2
#33: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: kenny16m, Location: LlantrisantPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:11 pm ---- Any one bought a peugeot planet cable from ebay? they any good?
#34: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:42 pm ---- Will be the chinese clone, don't have as many functions and the software is pretty unstable. Wouldn't do any coding with them
#35: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: stevedude, Location: aldershotPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:14 pm ---- so would pug planet even work on my car?
#36: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: stevedude, Location: aldershotPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:15 pm ---- so would pug planet even work on my car?
#37: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: mjsroofing, Location: south walesPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:23 am ---- isnt peugeot planet the one to get
#38: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:55 am ----
stevedude wrote:
so would pug planet even work on my car?
Yes as basically it was the official Peugeot kit.
#39: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: kenny16m, Location: LlantrisantPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:04 am ---- So wheres the best place to get a cable from ive got the program
#40: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:52 pm ----
stevedude wrote:
gazza, why didnt you try pug planet if ya was spending that much?
'because this works with a wide range of cars ... and I asked before on here (prior to the crash) and didn't get that as a response!
#41: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: stevedude, Location: aldershotPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:53 pm ----
gazza82 wrote:
stevedude wrote:
gazza, why didnt you try pug planet if ya was spending that much?
'because this works with a wide range of cars ... and I asked before on here (prior to the crash) and didn't get that as a response!
oh i see lol
#42: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:39 am ---- ... except our latest addition to the family apparently ... a March 2001 206CC ...
The Sealey VS863 wouldn't even connect even though it shows the RFN engine in the menu. I'll try updating the software though as I found some patches on their website today.
... but a cheapo ELM323 interface and Gendan's EngineCheck LE on my old laptop does! I was able to reset the engine management light but it didn't show up any fault codes, which should be good news.
#43: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 12:10 pm ----
gazza82 wrote:
... except our latest addition to the family apparently ... a March 2001 206CC ...
The Sealey VS863 wouldn't even connect even though it shows the RFN engine in the menu. I'll try updating the software though as I found some patches on their website today.
... but a cheapo ELM323 interface and Gendan's EngineCheck LE on my old laptop does! I was able to reset the engine management light but it didn't show up any fault codes, which should be good news.
No it's not. It means there's a fault else where that the device isn't capable of reading
#44: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: gazza82, Location: South BucksPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 3:26 am ---- Oops!
Shouldn't be too surprised. I replaced the rear brake discs and pads last night ... they look like the originals from 2001!!!
Peugeot logo on pads which had between 1 and 2mm of pad material left!
Just waiting for front discs and pads to arrive and they will also get replaced.
#45: Re: Diagnostic reader/cable. opinions and info please Author: Username, Location: NewportPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:12 am ----
You have pin 2 (Bus+ J1850 Protocol), pin 10 (Bus J1850) & pin 8 (NC) missing. European protocols run on pins 7 & 15 which are pin 7 (K-LINE ISO9141-2) & pin 15 (L-LINE ISO 9141-2)
OBD-II Signal Protocols
There are five signaling protocols that are permitted with the OBD-II interface. Most vehicles implement only one of the protocols. It is often possible to deduce the protocol used based on which pins are present on the J1962 connector:
* SAE J1850 PWM (pulse-width modulation - 41.6 kB/sec, standard of the Ford Motor Company)
o pin 2: Bus+
o pin 10: Bus–
o High voltage is +5 V
o Message length is restricted to 12 bytes, including CRC
o Employs a multi-master arbitration scheme called 'Carrier Sense Multiple Access with Non-Destructive Arbitration' (CSMA/NDA)
* SAE J1850 VPW (variable pulse width - 10.4/41.6 kB/sec, standard of General Motors)
o pin 2: Bus+
o Bus idles low
o High voltage is +7 V
o Decision point is +3.5 V
o Message length is restricted to 12 bytes, including CRC
o Employs CSMA/NDA
* ISO 9141-2. This protocol has an asynchronous serial data rate of 10.4 kBaud. It is somewhat similar to RS-232, however the signal levels are different, and communications happens on a single, bidirectional line without additional handshake signals. ISO 9141-2 is primarily used in Chrysler, European, and Asian vehicles.
o pin 7: K-line
o pin 15: L-line (optional)
o UART signaling
o K-line idles high, with a 510 ohm resistor to Vbatt
o The active/dominant state is driven low with an open-collector driver.
o Message length is restricted to 12 bytes, including CRC
* ISO 14230 KWP2000 (Keyword Protocol 2000)
o pin 7: K-line
o pin 15: L-line (optional)
o Physical layer identical to ISO 9141-2
o Data rate 1.2 to 10.4 kBaud
o Message may contain up to 255 bytes in the data field
* ISO 15765 CAN (250 kBit/s or 500 kBit/s). The CAN protocol was developed by Bosch for automotive and industrial control. Unlike other OBD protocols, variants are widely use outside of the automotive industry. While it did not meet the OBD-II requirements for U.S. vehicles prior to 2003, as of 2008 all vehicles sold in the US are required to implement CAN as one of their signaling protocols.
o pin 6: CAN High
o pin 14: CAN Low
All OBDII pinouts use the same connector but different pins are utilized with the exception of pin 4 (battery ground) and pin 16 (battery positive).
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