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#1: 180 cambelt Author: SAB206, Location: North West PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:35 am
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I just had cambelt and water pump done on 180 at local garage today.

I got it back, but the exhaust sounds louder, and the car seems a bit slower.

he said the pins lined up in the cams etc??

do you know what they could have done wrong? :/

help!

#2: Re: 180 cambelt Author: Big_Rich180 PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:49 am
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Probably not used the incorrect locking tools and its been timed badly.

EDIT: or maybe the exhaust could have become loose when they had the engine off the mount, might be worth going round the exhaust joins and tightening them up.

#3: Re: 180 cambelt Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley) PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:19 am
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My exhaust sounded louder after haveing mine done last month. But doesn't seem down on power.

#4: Re: 180 cambelt Author: Antknee, Location: Manchester PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:29 am
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My hdi seems louder and up on power now, im loving it lol

#5: Re: 180 cambelt Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / Welling PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:58 am
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That doesnt sound too good.

Having just done the belt on my 180 rally car I realise how important it is to time the belt correctly.

Is it when you rev the car or all the time?

They may well have locked the cams correcly however If they didnt use the correct crankshaft locking tool then perhaps the belt is a tooth out and when you accelerate the valves are touching.

It could just be something minimal like the exhaust loose however I would check with them and make sure the locked the floating crankshaft with the correct tool.
Ask them how the locked it!

#6: Re: 180 cambelt Author: SAB206, Location: North West PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:00 am
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cheers imjeeves! what tool should they have used for the crank?

#7: Re: 180 cambelt Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, Cornwall PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:36 am
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Out of interest how much is this, and what's the rec. Time to do it? I'm not sure mines been done Sad
And will all pug garages know how to do it properly? Lol

#8: Re: 180 cambelt Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / Welling PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:19 am
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There is a tool looks like a cone with a point out of the end. It gets inserted into the block at the back of the engine above the driveshaft and locates the flywheel. Any other way of locking it will risk the wrong timing if the crank moves.

It takes a long time to do it. I recon flat out working on it 4-5 hours. Think its about £400-500 to get it done. No not all Pug garages will. I know for a fact my local one doesnt have the tool and just hope 180's dont come in.

#9: Re: 180 cambelt Author: SAB206, Location: North West PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:23 pm
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if i got hold of that tool, do you reckon i can rectify mine, or do you think its messed up now its been done wrong once?

#10: Re: 180 cambelt Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:49 pm
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you will have to do the timing probably.

the tools is just to "lock" the timing (provide the timing before is good)

#11: Re: 180 cambelt Author: SAB206, Location: North West PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:21 am
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went back in today, came back, the exhaust cam was 1 tooth out.

Runs as it should now.. SWEET. Cool

#12: Re: 180 cambelt Author: |SGP|, Location: Truro/Falmouth, Cornwall PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:35 am
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What mileage is recommended for a 180?

#13: Re: 180 cambelt Author: Ali_H, Location: Chichester, Sussex PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:36 am
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I did mine at 48000, can never be too careful.

#14: Re: 180 cambelt Author: SAB206, Location: North West PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:49 am
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Just had mine done at 36k / 5yrs old.

As Ali said, can't be too careful.

#15: Re: 180 cambelt Author: Andy180+, Location: doncaster south yorkshire PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:54 am
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did mine at 56k, looks like had one before too . better of doing now for a couple of hundred quid rather than the 1100 just quoted to a customer for a 1.4 scenic due to belt snapped. all 16 valves bent plus 8 valve guides cracked .



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