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#1: Torsion bar.. Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:12 am
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Yep, this again Sad been here before ..

Long story short got the top bar out and move onto the bottom bar. Been hitting it for a very long time and finally it started to move. Except that it was only moving on one side and pushing the hub out of the other..

Bar has clearly moved:

 


On the other side (where it should be coming out of):

 


The increasing gap between the trailing arm:

 


I don't know what I can do? Pretty stuck with this.. as the bar is really seized, also tried the bolt and socket method which didn't do anything either.

Harry

#2: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: cartoonhead, Location: North Manchester PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:16 am
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put the nut and bolt method on the opposit side to where your hitting and then give 2 bangs on the other side and then retighten the nut , hit 2 times - retighten nut nad so on

also lift the hub by a few mm to take the weight off the torsion bar

#3: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:17 am
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do you just want to lower the rear?

if not i would just knocked out the whole arms and get the bars press out.

#4: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:20 am
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I guess it's all I can do but the hits are just hitting the hub out? when I actually hit the bar..

Yeah I'm just trying to lower it, really don't want to go to that length as the brake will need rebleeding and I know I will f*** something up.

Last edited by Harry on Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:23 am; edited 1 time in total

#5: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:22 am
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Right harry

Hit it the wrong way, it will go back that way

But the bars wont come out Sad

I did this on mine, arm came off so i replaced the bearings to

#6: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:22 am
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or you can put something to hold the arm in place (like a few block of wood or whatever) and keep hitting the bar.

the bolt and nuts method i highly doubt it would work; it don't even work on my 05 axle.

#7: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:23 am
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Seabook wrote:
or you can put something to hold the arm in place (like a few block of wood or whatever) and keep hitting the bar.

the bolt and nuts method i highly doubt it would work; it don't even work on my 05 axle.

Snapped the thread in mine

#8: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:24 am
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Addaz wrote:
Seabook wrote:
or you can put something to hold the arm in place (like a few block of wood or whatever) and keep hitting the bar.

the bolt and nuts method i highly doubt it would work; it don't even work on my 05 axle.

Snapped the thread in mine

that's all it can do Laughing

#9: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:25 am
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Addaz wrote:
Right harry

Hit it the wrong way, it will go back that way

But the bars wont come out Sad

I did this on mine, arm came off so i replaced the bearings to

How can I get the bar out then? really don't want the arm to come off then I honestly don't know what I'm doing Laughing

Quote::
or you can put something to hold the arm in place (like a few block of wood or whatever) and keep hitting the bar.

the bolt and nuts method i highly doubt it would work; it don't even work on my 05 axle.

How do you mean with the wood? I've always been sceptical about the bolt method sure it will just rip the thread move than anything.

Do you think if I get someone else to hit the bar whilst I hit the hub back it would work?

#10: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:27 am
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Harry wrote:
Addaz wrote:
Right harry

Hit it the wrong way, it will go back that way

But the bars wont come out Sad

I did this on mine, arm came off so i replaced the bearings to

How can I get the bar out then? really don't want the arm to come off then I honestly don't know what I'm doing Laughing

Quote::
or you can put something to hold the arm in place (like a few block of wood or whatever) and keep hitting the bar.

the bolt and nuts method i highly doubt it would work; it don't even work on my 05 axle.

How do you mean with the wood? I've always been sceptical about the bolt method sure it will just rip the thread move than anything.

Do you think if I get someone else to hit the bar whilst I hit the hub back it would work?

that's the same idea, you need something to stop the arm from moving.

#11: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Ape, Location: Clipping the Apex! PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:27 am
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There's a couple of options, I've used both.

1. Get a mate to hit the stub axle where it meets the tube the same time you hit the torsion bar.
2. put some wood, a bar or another solid object between the stub axle and something solid (wall etc), and hit the bars.

Top bar you knock from drivers side, bottom bar you knock from passenger side.

#12: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:35 am
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Harry wrote:
Addaz wrote:
Right harry

Hit it the wrong way, it will go back that way

But the bars wont come out Sad

I did this on mine, arm came off so i replaced the bearings to

How can I get the bar out then? really don't want the arm to come off then I honestly don't know what I'm doing Laughing

It knocks out, but you cant get the bar out out of the whole axle, so you still can adjust the arms

Just not get the bar out

#13: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:53 am
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I see the problem, got my dad out so we could both do it and nothings moving this b*****d Sad

Long shot but if anyone wants to drive to stafford I would gladly pay the petrol costs + more if you could sort it Laughing

Addaz I thought of that in my head, surely knocking the arms out and re adjusting would achieve the same thing just be more difficult. Would you have to renew the bearings if you did this?

#14: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:56 am
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Harry wrote:
I see the problem, got my dad out so we could both do it and nothings moving this b*****d Sad

Long shot but if anyone wants to drive to stafford I would gladly pay the petrol costs + more if you could sort it Laughing

Addaz I thought of that in my head, surely knocking the arms out and re adjusting would achieve the same thing just be more difficult. Would you have to renew the bearings if you did this?

Yes, as you are disturbing the bearings (but you dont have to)

Knock that bar the wrong way out
Drivers to passengers Wink

A sledge hammer works wonders

#15: Re: Torsion bar.. Author: Seabook PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:13 am
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9 out of 10 you would destroy the bearing when the arms comes out



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