#1: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:26 am ---- I know the warning text of 'Anti Pollution Fault' can and does cover many different things. A number of sensors etc.
I'm just wondering as a mechanic told me, but i'm not sure whether to believe him or not, that the warning 'Unblock Diesel Filter' doesn't necessarily mean its the FAP, i know i'm about to get the usual stock Faptastic replies But surely there's more to it that just that?
So does that warning cover many different things or is it quite specific? Just when i get it, the display then says ' Automatic Wiping Activated' then 'Unblock Diesel Filter' then 'Automatic Wiping Activated' i would of thought it would stick to the filter message? Also it seems to be doing a regen when it says it.
Cheers
FAP Rules
#2: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:34 am ---- When you have a new warning message pop up it will also scroll though any other active warning messages at the same time.
You can have several different info messages pop up on the mfd one after the other.
#3: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:43 am ----
Squeaker wrote:
I know the warning text of 'Anti Pollution Fault' can and does cover many different things. A number of sensors etc.
I'm just wondering as a mechanic told me, but i'm not sure whether to believe him or not, that the warning 'Unblock Diesel Filter' doesn't necessarily mean its the FAP, i know i'm about to get the usual stock Faptastic replies But surely there's more to it that just that?
So does that warning cover many different things or is it quite specific? Just when i get it, the display then says ' Automatic Wiping Activated' then 'Unblock Diesel Filter' then 'Automatic Wiping Activated' i would of thought it would stick to the filter message? Also it seems to be doing a regen when it says it.
Cheers
FAP Rules
Completely unrelated.
Welcome back Simon!!
#4: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:22 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Completely unrelated.
Welcome back Simon!!
Cheers Fella
#5: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:50 am ---- *Bump*
So does the Unblock Diesel Filter warning message cover sensors etc on way to the fap or is it specific to the fap?
#6: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:51 am ---- Its gonna be a FAP system problem.
Needs scanning to get the exact error codes to see what the ecu has flagged up.
Its EOBD so scanning it for wont really be a problem.
#7: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:52 am ---- Its either low on juice, then sensor on the cap has gone, needs a regen, or the thing is f****d
And f*** off before you even start
#8: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:00 am ----
Lee wrote:
Its either low on juice, then sensor on the cap has gone, needs a regen, or the thing is f****d
Its not the fuel, when it gets low, i either fill it or throw in over 3/4 of a tank.
I'm starting to think it does it when its actually doing a regen. I had a run to Cleggy over the weekend, drove 30-40 miles town driving since i got back and i got the warning just before pulling up, when i got out, you hear the noises associated with it doing a regen.
Is there a way of making it doing a regen? Dont wanna drive down the A1 for 45 mins, only for it to do it when i nip to the shop.
Or may just have to get it scanned at some point.
Lee wrote:
And f*** off before you even start
Why? Whats happened?
#9: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:15 am ---- I'll keep you posted mate, getting mine scanned tonight.
#10: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 6:35 am ----
Squeaker wrote:
Lee wrote:
Its either low on juice, then sensor on the cap has gone, needs a regen, or the thing is f****d
Its not the fuel, when it gets low, i either fill it or throw in over 3/4 of a tank.
I'm starting to think it does it when its actually doing a regen. I had a run to Cleggy over the weekend, drove 30-40 miles town driving since i got back and i got the warning just before pulling up, when i got out, you hear the noises associated with it doing a regen.
Is there a way of making it doing a regen? Dont wanna drive down the A1 for 45 mins, only for it to do it when i nip to the shop.
Or may just have to get it scanned at some point.
Lee wrote:
And f*** off before you even start
Why? Whats happened?
lee doesn't mean fuel, he means the Fap fluid
#11: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 7:02 am ----
Squeaker wrote:
Or may just have to get it scanned at some point.
Your wasting your time until you do
It NEEDS scanning, without the fault codes your just p**sing in to the wind
#12: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:19 am ---- check the tank under the car near the passengers rear wheel
#13: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:45 pm ---- Well, had mine scanned tonight and it aint lookin' pretty
Fast idle MB reading for a clear FAP should be approx 30MB - mine was not a kick in the a**e off 300MB!
It's that blocked it can't be regenerated using PPS - so time to crack out the ramps, a steam cleaner and a Saturday afternoon
Also got an open circuit on the fuel cap, so no fluid is being injected into the FAP which aint helping
Get the codes scanned ASAP would be my advice! And don't booted the a**e off the car until you do and it's all sorted.
#14: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Mon May 02, 2011 3:23 pm ----
G. wrote:
Fast idle MB reading for a clear FAP should be approx 30MB - mine was not a kick in the a**e off 300MB!
Might sound daft, but no idea what that relates to
G. wrote:
Get the codes scanned ASAP would be my advice! And don't booted the a**e off the car until you do and it's all sorted.
Don't boot it anymore anyway, trying to keep it to 50+mpg
I'll have a ring round local garages trying to get it scanned in next few days. I gather going price is £20?
#15: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:32 pm ----
Squeaker wrote:
G. wrote:
Fast idle MB reading for a clear FAP should be approx 30MB - mine was not a kick in the a**e off 300MB!
Might sound daft, but no idea what that relates to
G. wrote:
Get the codes scanned ASAP would be my advice! And don't booted the a**e off the car until you do and it's all sorted.
Don't boot it anymore anyway, trying to keep it to 50+mpg
I'll have a ring round local garages trying to get it scanned in next few days. I gather going price is £20?
MB = millibars
Didn't cost me anything for scanning, friendly RTC Master Tech did it for free
#16: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 2:58 pm ---- Gonna get Lee to do mine, Lee will you be able to tell me that too?
#17: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:01 pm ---- I think he should be able to if he's using PPS - there is a very recent, new release of dealer diag software but my car was read using PPS.
#18: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 3:56 pm ---- I'm running software newer than some dealers
#19: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 12:06 pm ----
G. wrote:
Fast idle MB reading for a clear FAP should be approx 30MB - mine was not a kick in the a**e off 300MB!
I see your 300 and raise ya 348mb
Codes that came up on mine were:
P1351
P0420.
What were the ones on yours G? Also do you or your mate now how to force a regen with the software?
I'm thinking the glow plug failure has stopped it regenerating for however how long, does that sound feasible?
Oh and cheers for the scan Lee Got the message back before i even got off Lidget Lane
I had 'open fuel cap circuit' - this meaning the sensor that injects the cerine fluid into the fuel tank is knackered. No cerine = no regeneration!
Cannae mind what the other was but I was told not to worry about it.
Nah regeneration on mine was impossible. As there's no cerine mixing with the diesel the soot in the DPF isn't getting burned off. That and my DPF is too far gone now to allow regeneration.
Tis getting steam cleaned out on Friday, will need to get a new fuel cap sensor ordered up too.
#21: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Squeaker, Location: En Route to the Premiership 2012/13Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:23 pm ---- P1351 Is Post/Pre heating relay circuit, or failed glow plugs/relay. Hope its the plugs and not the relay, just ordered a set of 4 new NGK glow plugs.
P0420 Is that the FAP is overloaded.
But in the regen process, the glow plugs are turned on and extra fuel is thrown into the engine, to get it hot enough to burn the soot off.
I'm hoping when i put the new glow plugs in, it does a proper regen.
They are the same in the 1.4 so again i hope i can use Haynes on the 1.4 as a guide. because the 1.6 isnt in the Haynes.......
#22: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:16 am ---- You can fit new glow plugs, but with those MB readings I doubt the DPF will regenerate as it's too blocked. Mine wasn't for happening and it was less blocked than yours!
#23: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: MrrNoName, Location: UKPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:47 am ----
Squeaker wrote:
I see your 300 and raise ya 348mb
lol that made me laugh
#24: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 1:59 pm ---- Send me your email address and I'll send you a guide on how to strip that engine.
#25: Re: Anti Pollution Fault/ Unblock Diesel Filter Queries Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 2:09 pm ---- Is that including removing the DPF filter Lee, aye?
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