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#1: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:46 am
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Hey

Fiddling around the back of the inlet manifold and I broke a connector that plugs into the back of it.

It's the 1.4 8v engine.

I need to replace the inlet manifold. Can I safely remove the old one and just replace it?

Is there anything I need to do before disconnecting the old one? Do I need to do the replacement immediately or is there a risk of dust and stuff getting in?

Sorry in a bit of rush, hope it makes sense.

Also, can I replace with a version from another model/engine?

Thanks.

#2: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:48 am
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You will need to replace the gasket.

What you actually broke of?

#3: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:49 am
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You didnt break the manifold

As not connectors plug direct into it

Probs a sensor you broke

#4: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:04 am
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MrBSI wrote:
You will need to replace the gasket.

What you actually broke of?

Hope not. Don't think so.

The bit that broke is a connector at the back of it. I'm not sure what it is, it's either a sensor or something.

#5: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:06 am
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juanfernandes wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
You will need to replace the gasket.

What you actually broke of?

Hope not. Don't think so.

The bit that broke is a connector at the back of it. I'm not sure what it is, it's either a sensor or something.

Injectors?

Is it on the throttle body?

#6: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:07 am
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juanfernandes wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
You will need to replace the gasket.

What you actually broke of?

Hope not. Don't think so.

if you remove the inlet manifold from the head then the gasket must be replaced else it will leak.

#7: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:14 am
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Addaz wrote:
juanfernandes wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
You will need to replace the gasket.

What you actually broke of?

Hope not. Don't think so.

The bit that broke is a connector at the back of it. I'm not sure what it is, it's either a sensor or something.

Injectors?

Is it on the throttle body?

No it's not the throttle body. The plastic bit after it. There is a plastic bit that has a molded pipe connected to it. The plastic bit that the cable connects to broke.

#8: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:15 am
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MrBSI wrote:
juanfernandes wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
You will need to replace the gasket.

What you actually broke of?

Hope not. Don't think so.

if you remove the inlet manifold from the head then the gasket must be replaced else it will leak.

Really? F*ck! So I need to buy a new gasket and a inlet manifold.

#9: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: tomd0801754, Location: Moscow PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:17 am
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I'm gonna suggest you go get a photo.

#10: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:18 am
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Im getting a feeling its one of the stubs for the breather has been snapped off.

#11: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:19 am
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Yeh ive got that feeling to

Super glue it back on mate, its simpler

#12: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:20 am
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tomd0801754 wrote:
I'm gonna suggest you go get a photo.

I will, but I'm not home at the mo.

#13: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:24 am
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MrBSI wrote:
Im getting a feeling its one of the stubs for the breather has been snapped off.

Yes, that's the word I was looking for. It's a stub but it's not the breather one that is connected to the filter, it's one at the back.

#14: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:36 am
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It goes to the brake servo

You wont be going anywhere, you have no brakes now Laughing

#15: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:37 am
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The stub that broke was behind where my finger is pointing:
 


The cable connect to here:
 



 

#16: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:41 am
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Addaz wrote:
It goes to the brake servo

You wont be going anywhere, you have no brakes now Laughing

Thanks. Car is going to be SORN'd at the end of this month.

They worked enough to move the car back into its space Rolling Eyes

#17: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:42 am
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Yeh, brake master cylinder air feed

Your sir dont have brakes

BTW i think yours is 16v not 8 mate Laughing (as 8v dont have electronic throttle)

#18: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:49 am
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Addaz wrote:

BTW i think yours is 16v not 8 mate Laughing (as 8v dont have electronic throttle)

The newer ones do Wink

#19: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:51 am
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The brakes will still work BUT the servo assistance wont be.

You will need a heavy push on the brake pedal to get the car to stop Wink

#20: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:57 am
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MrBSI wrote:
Addaz wrote:

BTW i think yours is 16v not 8 mate Laughing (as 8v dont have electronic throttle)

The newer ones do Wink

Really? I never actually knew that, ta for the info mate

#21: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:01 am
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Addaz wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Addaz wrote:

BTW i think yours is 16v not 8 mate Laughing (as 8v dont have electronic throttle)

The newer ones do Wink

Really? I never actually knew that, ta for the info mate

Ive seen them on 2005 onwards TU lumps.

#22: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:56 am
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Thanks for all the replies so far.

So I just need to buy a replacement inlet manifold and a replacement gasket.

Looking on the bay, there are some variations - some from different years. Will any of these fit?

I'm hoping to get one that has that stub in a different place, so it doesn't get in the way.

#23: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:30 pm
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juanfernandes wrote:
Thanks for all the replies so far.

So I just need to buy a replacement inlet manifold and a replacement gasket.

Looking on the bay, there are some variations - some from different years. Will any of these fit?

I'm hoping to get one that has that stub in a different place, so it doesn't get in the way.

Pre 2000 will not fit

Ports are: 00-00
Yours are: 0-0-0-0

16 valve will not fit unfortunatly

Im not sure if your throttle body will fit cable operated ones, but it may just look at the hole alignment before purchasing mate

#24: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:39 pm
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Addaz wrote:
juanfernandes wrote:
Thanks for all the replies so far.

So I just need to buy a replacement inlet manifold and a replacement gasket.

Looking on the bay, there are some variations - some from different years. Will any of these fit?

I'm hoping to get one that has that stub in a different place, so it doesn't get in the way.

Pre 2000 will not fit

Ports are: 00-00
Yours are: 0-0-0-0

16 valve will not fit unfortunatly

Im not sure if your throttle body will fit cable operated ones, but it may just look at the hole alignment before purchasing mate

Thanks Addaz. Just looking at the bay.

#25: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:43 pm
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So can I just go ahead and remove the inlet manifold and leave it off the car until I get the replacement one?

Or is it best to remove it and fit the new one at the same time?

Will it let in dust and stuff if I leave it off?

#26: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Addaz, Location: Suffolk PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:57 pm
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No harm in leaving it off mate, but may be wise to leave it on till you get a replacement mate

#27: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:06 pm
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Addaz wrote:
No harm in leaving it off mate, but may be wise to leave it on till you get a replacement mate

Thanks.

Just trying to find one that will fit, but has the stub somewhere else. But the ones on ebay don't show both sides Rolling Eyes

I might just take a gamble on one that looks similar.

#28: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:33 am
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Right, if that stub that broke is for the brake master cylinder air feed, can I replace the molded tubing with some silicone hose?

Basically, the reason it broke was because it got in the way, so I was thinking of cutting it down or heating it up and bending it to the right a bit and then use some silicone hosing instead.

Would that work?

#29: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:05 pm
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Hmm peugeot wont give out part numbers Mad

#30: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:31 pm
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Use Service Box and give them the part numbers then, they will stop being funny then Laughing

#31: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:43 pm
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G. wrote:
Use Service Box and give them the part numbers then, they will stop being funny then Laughing

I tried service box, but wasn't sure about a few things Rolling Eyes

There's a few 1.4's in the list, so I wasn't sure which one was mine.

#32: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: Lecktorious, Location: Scotland PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:44 pm
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Use your VIN, you will get an exact match.

#33: Re: Oops... Broke inlet manifold Author: juanfernandes, Location: London PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:46 pm
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G. wrote:
Use your VIN, you will get an exact match.

Ahh cool. Thanks for that. Very Happy



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