#1: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:18 pm ---- Hi all, basically ive got the common problem of having part of the cooling fan wiring corroding and turing to dust. Having looked on service box for the part number the only wiring i can find is in the picture below.
There are a few differences between the picture on service box and the wiring on the car.
First one being that where i have circled it and labeled number 1 i have two wires coming from the main wiring and providing an earth.
Second one is at the point ive circled and labeled as 2 i have the main wiring connector where as on the picture it doesnt seem to have one.
The last is that were it is labeled 1 in black on mine it goes into the fuse box yet in the picture it looks different.
Has anyone brought this part from peugeot before and found that these few points are included in the wiring or am i looking at the wrong part on service box.
Just asking on here before i have a wasted 40 mile round trip, so any help would be greatfully received.
#2: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:46 am ---- Did you input your VIN number at the start when you opened Service Box?
#3: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:38 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Did you input your VIN number at the start when you opened Service Box?
I hadnt done the first time, have just entered it this time and got the same part number but this time with no mention of air conditioning, or the two points that is on my wiring:
#4: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:36 am ---- Can anyone shed any light on it?
#5: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:30 am ---- Whats your chassis number?
#6: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:52 am ----
Lee wrote:
Whats your chassis number?
Sorry didnt see this untill now, ill pm you it thanks
#7: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:33 am ---- Hi,
The car has a 250w two-speed fan
On a side note: You've had your door locks fixed twice, drive belt fixed three times due to slipping off and you accelerator pedal fixed while under warranty. All around 40k miles.
#8: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:04 am ----
Lee wrote:
Hi,
On a side note: You've had your door locks fixed twice, drive belt fixed three times due to slipping off and you accelerator pedal fixed while under warranty. All around 40k miles.
On a side note: You've had your door locks fixed twice, drive belt fixed three times due to slipping off and you accelerator pedal fixed while under warranty. All around 40k miles.
On a side note: You've had your door locks fixed twice, drive belt fixed three times due to slipping off and you accelerator pedal fixed while under warranty. All around 40k miles.
Thanks for that i notice that those pictures dont show the two points that are also missing on the one on service box, i imagen it wouldnt go into that detail? Would you by anychance know if the part number is correct that i found?
Sorry should have uploaded this before now. This is the wiring i removed from my car, ive labelled it as i understand it.
1. Relays
2. Cooling fan connector
3. Resistor connector
4. Earth
5. Main connector plug
6. Live feed which clicks into the fuse box.
The points that i was refering to was points 4 and 5. The picture on service box doesnt seem to show these. The query i have is would these be points that the wiring would include but not show them on service box or would these have to be added to the new loom.
#13: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:06 pm ---- im following this thread too, i need to repair the wiring thats corroded at the lower green relay tomorrow.
#14: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:16 pm ---- Are you replacing the whole loom then?
They more than likely should be included in the loom
They more than likely should be included in the loom
Im going to check the wires properly tomorrow, was just getting my options sorted so im not held up by this bank holiday weekend.
Thanks again for your help.
#16: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:33 am ---- any update on this?
#17: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: scousemouse, Location: scotlandPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:53 pm ---- mine had same problem found corroded wire at low speed fan relay and also low speed fan reisitor faulty replaced resistor and repaired wiring all now ok
#18: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:56 pm ---- awesome thanks for that
#19: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:59 pm ----
scousemouse wrote:
mine had same problem found corroded wire at low speed fan relay and also low speed fan reisitor faulty replaced resistor and repaired wiring all now ok
How did you tell that the resistor was faulty? Do you know what the resistance values should be? Ive just repaired the lower relay wiring, and cleaned up all connections ready to test again. So if mine doesnt work after all this then there's a problem on the sensor side of things rather than the wiring.
#20: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:06 pm ---- are both relays the same rich? for low+high speed?
#21: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:11 pm ----
DJ- wrote:
are both relays the same rich? for low+high speed?
On mine i found that peugeot supply the same relay for both the upper and lower relays, so in terms of ratings there the same. But for the lower relay it only uses 4 out of 5 pins. So if you can find a 4 pin relay with the same ratings it should work.
#22: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: scousemouse, Location: scotlandPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:56 pm ---- resistor is rated @ 0.8 ohm if you have air con switch it on after about 20 secomds the low speed fan should come on if you remove the resistor you should have continuity between all 3 pins
#23: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:48 pm ----
scousemouse wrote:
resistor is rated @ 0.8 ohm if you have air con switch it on after about 20 secomds the low speed fan should come on if you remove the resistor you should have continuity between all 3 pins
so let me get this right,
unplug the resistor , switch aircon on , and fan should kick in after 20 seconds if its the resistor at fault ?
#24: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 4:13 pm ---- ah ok cheers mate. Ill probably just get the same from the dealer
#25: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: scousemouse, Location: scotlandPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:28 am ---- sorry mate for the late reply .With The resistor still connected and the air con switched on the LOW SPEED FAN should cut in .If not the resistor should be removed from the car to test it ,If you look through the lower grill on the drivers side you can see the resistor and by removing the two 10mm bolts holding the lower bumper you can just get your hand in to get at the plug hope this helps
#26: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: DJ-, Location: UKPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:31 am ---- what happens if the low fan doesnt come on even when AC button clicked. would that be the relay?
#27: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:41 am ----
DJ- wrote:
what happens if the low fan doesnt come on even when AC button clicked. would that be the relay?
apparently yes, usually becouse of rotten wires running into the relay block .
however ive bypassed the block by connecting the clean wires directly to the relay but its still not kicking in the fan.
.. if i manually bridge the relay, the fan will kick in ... go figure
#28: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: scousemouse, Location: scotlandPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:50 am ---- check the resistor as for perry;s post wiring to relay is terminal 30 12v from battery
terminal 87 to fan motor
terminal 85 ground terminal 86 from coolant sensor vis air con ecu
in all cases check the fan wiring first and using terminal layout above check relays which leaves coolant temp sensor which if you guage reads correctly will point to the low speed fan resistor
#29: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: purrjoe, Location: South CoastPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:55 am ---- I too have a problem with a non-operating fan.
Can anyone tell me how to access the 'Service Box' that was previously mentioned?
Cheers
#30: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: richpowell91, Location: Melton Mowbray LeicestershirePosted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:00 pm ----
purrjoe wrote:
I too have a problem with a non-operating fan.
Can anyone tell me how to access the 'Service Box' that was previously mentioned?
Cheers
Have a read through this, you might have to register yourself an account though as people keep changing the password
#31: Re: Cooling fan wiring query Author: perry081064, Location: staffordshirePosted: Sat May 14, 2011 1:47 pm ----
scousemouse wrote:
check the resistor as for perry;s post wiring to relay is terminal 30 12v from battery
terminal 87 to fan motor
terminal 85 ground terminal 86 from coolant sensor vis air con ecu
in all cases check the fan wiring first and using terminal layout above check relays which leaves coolant temp sensor which if you guage reads correctly will point to the low speed fan resistor
thanks for the info , havent had time to get at it yet but will let you know when i do.
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