#1: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditchPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:08 pm ---- just a quick one sorry if its been covered before but search didnt show me much dont really know how to use it properly to be honest!
is there any differences between the gti's from 1999 to 2003?
Cheers
#2: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditchPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:11 pm ---- an obviously i know about pre plexed an nonplexed i meant mechanical differences
#3: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: A18NHH, Location: MiddlesbroughPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:12 pm ---- the phase changed so you're looking at things like phase two boot strip, phase two rear lights, alloys changed, head rests on seats went from solid to having a hole in them - others will tell you more specifics
#4: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:21 pm ---- they had different tune of engine too, for emissions.
137bhp and 138bhp
#5: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditchPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:26 pm ---- bet you notice that 1bhp! im guessing its something in the exhaust system?
#6: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:28 pm ----
giveitsomebar wrote:
bet you notice that 1bhp! im guessing its something in the exhaust system?
different engine codes, so its something to do with timing or tuning.
the 138bhp are lower emissions but more torque
#7: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: giveitsomebar, Location: redditchPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:29 pm ---- ah ok cheers for clearing that one up!
#8: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:44 pm ---- I have a late 54 plate Gti, which has esp. Not many have that! Also the interior changed at some point, deeper front bucket seats. Mine had no spoiler though?!
#9: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:46 pm ----
Steve206 wrote:
I have a late 54 plate Gti, which has esp. Not many have that! Also the interior changed at some point, deeper front bucket seats. Mine had no spoiler though?!
Only GTi 180s have spoilers as standard, apart from 206's with the factory-fitted SP kit fitted
#10: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Steve206, Location: UKPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 1:57 pm ---- Loads of 206's come out of the factory with spoilers.
#11: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:00 pm ---- Between 1999 and 2003 the only mechanical changes were the move from RFR coded cars to RFN which meant 2 x lambda sensors were fitted. The exhaust systems became a 2 piece design rather than a cat, mid and rear section. I think the earlier GTi's up to 2000 came with thicker front ARB's too.
Front brake discs became thicker in early 2001.
Multiplexing was introduced on October 2001. So anything 51 plate onwards was multiplexed.
Sometime in 2004 traction control was added meaning they came with a motorised throttle body.
#12: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:05 pm ----
Steve206 wrote:
I have a late 54 plate Gti, which has esp. Not many have that! Also the interior changed at some point, deeper front bucket seats. Mine had no spoiler though?!
The seats came with very slightly deeper wings in late 2000 when side airbags came as standard. Rear head rests came around then too.
No SP parts were factory fit. They were all dealer fit options.
#13: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:39 pm ----
Steve206 wrote:
Loads of 206's come out of the factory with spoilers.
all GTIs from October 2003 had ESP by the way
#14: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Davels, Location: NorfolkPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:15 am ---- I'm I right in thinking the 2xlamda sensor cars are the lower powered models? I thought the earlier 2.0 GTi lumps had 2 and were actually only 134bhp and the later single lamda were 137-138.
#15: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:54 am ----
Davels wrote:
I'm I right
No.
Later cars have 2 x lambdas. Which car has more power I have no idea. I believe RFN coded cars might actually be 136bhp and the early ones 137/138bhp.
#16: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 11:32 am ----
Edward wrote:
Davels wrote:
I'm I right
No.
Later cars have 2 x lambdas. Which car has more power I have no idea. I believe RFN coded cars might actually be 136bhp and the early ones 137/138bhp.
multiplexing adds 1bhp to the GTi, that's all you need to know Eddie
it also made it faster accelerating and more economical, if 1mph slower.
maybe the gearing was changed? or compression ratio?
it appears that it was to do with emissions
reem
#17: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:01 pm ---- The RFN cars with 2 lambdas were nothing to do with multiplexing.
#21: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:25 pm ----
Barking wrote:
Edward wrote:
The RFN cars with 2 lambdas were nothing to do with multiplexing.
okay
was the later engine RFR? If so they are multiplexed and are 138bhp.
pre-multiplexed cars have 137bhp and are 1mph faster.
Read my first post and you'll find earlier GTi's were RFR coded. You can get multiplexed and conventionally wired RFN's!
Multiplexing has nothing to do with engine outputs.
#22: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:27 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Barking wrote:
Edward wrote:
The RFN cars with 2 lambdas were nothing to do with multiplexing.
okay
was the later engine RFR? If so they are multiplexed and are 138bhp.
pre-multiplexed cars have 137bhp and are 1mph faster.
Read my first post and you'll find earlier GTi's were RFR coded. You can get multiplexed and conventionally wired RFN's!
Multiplexing has nothing to do with engine outputs.
from Peugeot-psa website
"The 206 GTi was available in UK showrooms from 01 June 1999.
The GTi was originally 137bhp but when multiplexing was introduced(11 Oct 2001 onwards) it produced 138bhp. The pre-multiplexed GTi's have higher emissions, so you will probably pay more roadtax"
#24: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:31 pm ---- Well you can get Y plater 138 GTi's that were non-multiplexed that have the same emissions as multiplexed cars. The statement quoted is inaccurate.
#25: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Barking, Location: sarcasm-in-shedloadsPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 1:39 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Well you can get Y plater 138 GTi's that were non-multiplexed that have the same emissions as multiplexed cars. The statement quoted is inaccurate.
Eddie. Let's call it quits?
Neither engine has ever been 137bhp or 138bhp from factory anyway
#26: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: bigfella2, Location: YorkshirePosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:49 pm ---- Early GTI's had the aerial at the front of the roof as opposed to the rear. And display on dash does not tell you station on early version, unless the display on the missus' car is knackered.
#27: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: lofty, Location: Near ManchesterPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:56 pm ---- My car is a 51 and its pre-plexed.
Reg date was September IIRC
#28: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: Harty, Location: West LothianPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:02 am ---- the interior did change at some point... they changed the tops of the front seats to have leather aswell.. so from this
to this
quite subtle but still effective to me
#29: Re: 206 gti 138 year differences? Author: bigfella2, Location: YorkshirePosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:42 am ---- Windscreen wipers are different sizes on early version, but thats probably all ealy 206's.
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