#1: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:03 am ---- rite guys ive been trying to find this out 4 a long time. even the local pug dealer dont know the answer tbh. is there a fuel filter on a gti 180?? i know 4 a fact there's nothing in the fuel lines or on the engine. is there one of thos stupid ones in the fuel tank???
#2: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: luwegi, Location: PlymouthPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:09 am ---- "Apparently the outlet of the fuel tank is a bolt off job and contains a self cleaning filter?!? I've never heard of that before. The admin on PSOOC's 206 GTi 180 page told me this so it must be fairly reliable info." (from french performance website...)
#3: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: drunknmunky, Location: Blackburn and CatterickPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:10 am ---- yes there is one in it somewhere but its one of those self cleaning ones that you dont have to change
#4: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:13 am ---- cheers guys i fort that was the case. like ive had the car 2 n half years and never found one lol. still trying to figure out y car is playing up tho.
#5: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: luwegi, Location: PlymouthPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:15 am ---- what's wrong with it..?
#6: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:18 am ---- engine lumpy on tick over, kinda "backfiring" well burbling when taking foot off gas and while driving feels like shes missing 4 a sec every now and then
#7: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: luwegi, Location: PlymouthPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:24 am ---- start a topic mate, people will probs have some gd suggestions, i'm not really sure what that is.. sorry!
#8: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:25 am ---- Not clued up on 180's but could be the VVT?
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#9: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:25 am ---- already have dude but cheers tho
#10: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:26 am ---- i was contemplating replacing the vvt solenoid tomd0801754
#11: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:54 am ---- I won't be the icv it's a differnt system. And won't be a the vvt solenoid trust me I now when that goes the car won't rev. I had I similar problem with mine when it was cold it was horrible to drive till it had been running for a bit. You haven't got ngk plugs in it have you?
#12: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:11 am ---- mine is very slow to accelerate when i first get in it in the mornings. then all of a sudden it will accelerate like hell. and yeh its got ngk plugs in it but its had them in since ive had it (2 n half years) and this probably has only just started bout 3 months ago
#13: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:16 am ---- Here's an idea....maybe it needs servicing then
#14: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:19 am ---- has one every year cause i only do bout 6000 a year. and ive just done it bout 3 weeks ago
#15: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun May 08, 2011 5:28 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Not clued up on 180's but could be ICV or the VVT?
There is no ICV on a 180.
#16: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:02 am ----
bigtony85 wrote:
mine is very slow to accelerate when i first get in it in the mornings. then all of a sudden it will accelerate like hell. and yeh its got ngk plugs in it but its had them in since ive had it (2 n half years) and this probably has only just started bout 3 months ago
Change the ngk plugs for bosh super 4s I used NGks once nod it ran cr*p with no power they mess with the coil pack. Once its warm does Is accelerate hard low down then a little harder over about 3500-4000 rpm?
#17: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:04 am ----
bigtony85 wrote:
has one every year cause i only do bout 6000 a year. and ive just done it bout 3 weeks ago
Clearly not a proper service if the plugs are 2 and a half years old
#18: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:08 am ---- LEE it had a new set 3 weeks ago. i was sayin even tho ive changed them 3 times ive always changed them 4 NGKs and NICK ive never had problems with NGKs tbh. and nick yeh it does do that.
#19: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:11 am ---- Ye think you have never had a problem with the NGks but have you driven it with bosh super 4s in? You WILL notice a throttle and power difference I was noticeable on mine.
As for the acceleration if it's doing that your vvt sensor is fine then.
#20: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:13 am ---- coolio might try n change them nick. cheers dude
#21: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:15 am ---- Super Plus are the newer ones
#22: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:16 am ---- Alot of people on here will advice you to use bosh super 4s. And I'm speaking from experience. No probably hope you get it sorted.
#23: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:43 am ---- so whats better super plus or super 4???
#24: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:49 am ----
nick180 wrote:
Ye think you have never had a problem with the NGks but have you driven it with bosh super 4s in? You WILL notice a throttle and power difference I was noticeable on mine.
Your original plugs must have been knackered then. All a spark plug can ever do is create a strong spark. Super 4's will create the same single spark that any other plugs will do.
#25: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:40 am ---- It had super 4s in it I did a full service on it using ngk plugs went for a drive noticed it was down on power next day changed back to super 4s and it was back to narmal.
#26: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:32 am ---- I always use the NGK in my 180 rally car. I have always been told the standard bosch plugs are very poor. But Edward is correct all a plug does is spark nothing more so what quality you buy will really just depend on how long they will last against the cost of them
#27: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:03 am ---- NGK can cause problems with your coilpack and potentially ECU. That's why Peugeot issued a service bulletin about not fitting them
#28: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:17 am ----
Lee wrote:
NGK can cause problems with your coilpack and potentially ECU. That's why Peugeot issued a service bulletin about not fitting them
I was also told about the this when I worked for Peugeot.
#29: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:35 am ----
nick180 wrote:
Lee wrote:
NGK can cause problems with your coilpack and potentially ECU. That's why Peugeot issued a service bulletin about not fitting them
I was also told about the this when I worked for Peugeot.
Only dickheads fit NGK's to a PSA engine
Fingers crossed it blows his ecu
#30: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:38 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
nick180 wrote:
Lee wrote:
NGK can cause problems with your coilpack and potentially ECU. That's why Peugeot issued a service bulletin about not fitting them
I was also told about the this when I worked for Peugeot.
Only dickheads fit NGK's to a PSA engine
Fingers crossed it blows his ecu
easy mate !!!!!!! ive never hurd this b4 or been told any of this thats y ive got NGKs fitted
#31: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:46 am ---- Haha a set of plugs will not fry an ecu.
They only spark to combust fuel for god sake worst case - Engine management light and go to get me home mode.
I seriously doubt a company like NGK will manufacture plugs that are incompatible with an engine. Cumon guys wake up!
#32: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 9:51 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
Haha a set of plugs will not fry an ecu.
They only spark to combust fuel for god sake worst case - Engine management light and go to get me home mode.
I seriously doubt a company like NGK will manufacture plugs that are incompatible with an engine. Cumon guys wake up!
Go do your homework & come back again with the CORRECT answer
If a company the size of PSA Peugeot / Citroen sends out a technical service bulletin to its entire dealer network warning about NGK spark plugs then you must know something that PSA dont
#33: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: imjeeves, Location: Glasgow / WellingPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:01 am ---- Ok MR BSI clearly your ability to read a message on the service box has made you a technical expert on the subject of sparkplugs and the Peugeot / Citroen group and the technical problems with there cars.
Wouldn't be the fact that our good friend Mr Peugeot has a contract with Bosch for all their cars no??
Always used NGK and always will do and some know it all t**t on a forum aint going to change that. Ran Peugeot for years on NGK's and not EVER had a problem
#34: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:05 am ----
imjeeves wrote:
Ok MR BSI clearly your ability to read a message on the service box has made you a technical expert on the subject of sparkplugs and the Peugeot / Citroen group and the technical problems with there cars.
Wouldn't be the fact that our good friend Mr Peugeot has a contract with Bosch for all their cars no??
Always used NGK and always will do and some know it all t**t on a forum aint going to change that. Ran Peugeot for years on NGK's and not EVER had a problem
Try the phase detection system PSA designed in to the coil pack to detect any misfires happening being incompatible with the design of NGK spark plugs.
This can lead to the HT voltage instead of firing the spark plug being backfed down the wiring loom & finding its way to the engine ecu which in turn frys it.
#35: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: rttam, Location: devonPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:09 am ---- i always fit genuine peugeot ones then a know it will be fine
#36: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:12 am ---- I used Bosch Super Plus last time as there cheap on the trade card.
#37: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: SAB206, Location: North WestPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:18 am ---- So... Fuel filters
Yeah it's a self-cleaning one, so won't need replacing for a long time
#38: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:18 am ---- Whats a long time????
#39: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:47 am ---- The life time off the car unless it gets contaminated.
#40: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:51 am ---- rite so nothing to do spot on !!!!
#41: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: NICKST, Location: Little hulton (worsley)Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:55 am ---- If I was u would change the plugs. Try cleaning the map sensor. Clean the tb. Then come back to us with results mate.
#42: Re: Gti 180 Fuel Filter Author: bigtony85, Location: NottinghamPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 10:56 am ---- cheers nick spot on dude
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