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#1: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Davels, Location: Norfolk PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 3:15 am
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So I heard a few people on here talking about getting there ECU firmware updated when trying to find faults. But my question is will an update to the latest firmware really make that much difference?

Also I'm assuming its a dealer only job and I was wondering if anyone has an idea on how much it'll cost. And is the BSI firmware updated at the same time or is this extra?

#2: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: kieron, Location: in the house PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 4:17 am
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Can lee not do firmware updates? it has to be done with peugeot planet, you will then have stuff like DLR and wiper coming on in reverse if you want

#3: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Steve206, Location: UK PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 4:28 am
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Lee wont do frimware updates, as he says, if it aint broke, dont fix it!

#4: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:36 am
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No aftermarket place will do firm wire updates. It's dealer only.

It's not worth the risk of corruption of the EEPROM's. If it does corrupt, then I'm like £500 out of pocket.

I'll enable and disable features, but not update.

#5: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Davels, Location: Norfolk PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:56 am
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That is fair enough, it was just suggested I update if not already done so to smooth out any remaining rough idle issues after the tappet change.

Lee, in your opinion is it worth getting done at a dealer, surely if they corrupt the EEPROM they would have to replace? I can certainly understand you not wanting that risk. Not cheap!

#6: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:02 am
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People only generally get the BSI updated as the older versions tend to be a bit buggy in their software.

I can't see why you'd need the Engine ECU updating after changing the tappets :/

Yeah if they corrupt it, then yeah they'd either just replace the whole ECU or take the ECU out remove the eeprom and recode it with something like x-prog. I don't know hexdecimal binary so I can't reprogram them Laughing

I'd be tempted to leave it, because I bet its going to cost about £100

#7: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: stevedude, Location: aldershot PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:06 am
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also if you get it updated wont that remove any mapping done?

#8: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Davels, Location: Norfolk PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:13 am
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Cheers Lee, I'll be leaving it I think. I may look at a BSI update later but unless that adds options that can be switched on like autolocking etc there isn't any point.

The ECU update was suggested by a pug tech at a dealership believe it or not Laughing They also said the tappets aren't a known problem. So I was dubious from the start.

But the update was suggested before the tappet work not after to see it that made a difference. But at that point I was 99% sure the they were FUBAR anyway.

#9: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:20 am
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Davels wrote:
They also said the tappets aren't a known problem.

Depends on the age of 2.0 lump Wink

The early ones did suffer for a problem.

#10: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Davels, Location: Norfolk PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:27 am
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Seems to be more common on CC's oddly. I know at least 9 other CC 2.0 owners who all had similar idle and misfire problems all attributed to tappets. Mines a 2002 model so not the earliest or the latest of the 2.0 lumps Laughing

#11: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:30 am
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Davels wrote:
Mines a 2002 model so not the earliest or the latest of the 2.0 lumps Laughing

Still falls within the technical service bulliten PSA Peugeot / Citroen sent out Wink

Up to April 2003 EW10 engine production are the lumps affected.

New hydraulic tappet part number is 0942 48

#12: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Davels, Location: Norfolk PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:36 am
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Ah nice one, didn't know there was anything official ever mentioned.

And yup they're the ones, just checked the invoice. You had me worried for a sec

#13: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworth PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:10 am
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sorry to hijack thread. how much would a bsi software update cost at a dealer? roughly

#14: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Danw_VVT, Location: Herts/London PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:20 am
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Lee if you disable features could you do my rear wiper coming on in reverse for me?

#15: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Andrew, Location: Black Country Ay I PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:23 am
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If you have some kind of warranty that will cover it, go for it

I had it done to fix up some start up and idle issues

I don't know how much it would cost without warranty though, ring up a dealer

#16: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:45 pm
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Danw_VVT wrote:
Lee if you disable features could you do my rear wiper coming on in reverse for me?

Yeah I could do that Smile

#17: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: dumdum0910, Location: letchworth PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:15 pm
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sorry to bring up an old subject , but i went in to peugeot today after work to find out how much it would cost for a ecu and bsi software update - £150 , will i see any diffrence in the running of the car , mpg , acceleration etc , also will it clear the memory from were its had a ecu reset many time? ill only be getting this done as its first step to try and fix the intermitent idle problem i have

#18: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Lee, Location: England PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:18 pm
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Running performance will normally be better.

No it won't clear the service data

#19: Re: ECU updates (firmware) Author: Schumi, Location: Istanbul / Turkey PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:30 pm
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150£ for just ecu and bsi update. There is free in here (Turkey). Or maximum 25 euro.



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