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#1: new battery rating? Author: qwert, Location: uk PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:22 am
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hi,
im in the need of a new battery as the car is struggling to start. Ive read a varta battery is the way to go. Which one do i need...56ah, 60ah, 61ah, or 63ah.

The car is a 2:0 hdi

thanks

#2: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:56 am
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#3: Re: new battery rating? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:56 pm
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Varta D15 Silver Dynamic is the one you want.

Look out for the Bosch equivalent if its cheaper.

Varta make the batteries for Bosch so there exactly the same under the stickers Wink

Last edited by MrBSI on Mon May 23, 2011 5:16 pm; edited 1 time in total

#4: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:41 pm
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MrBSI wrote:
Varta D15 Silver Dynamic is the one you want.

Total overkill IMHO:

 

#5: Re: new battery rating? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:46 pm
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why over kill?

diesel need more power to start the engine compare to petrol.

i use the same battery as well (bosch S5)

#6: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:51 pm
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Seabook wrote:
why over kill?

diesel need more power to start the engine compare to petrol.

i use the same battery as well (bosch S5)

Is it the glow-plugs or more cranking power needed?

#7: Re: new battery rating? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:57 pm
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glow plugs don't normally kick in unless very cold (negative degree or close to zero)

is just it need more cranking power due to higher engine compression

#8: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:02 pm
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Ah OK, we only have taxis over here which are diesel.
Not allowed for passenger cars at all, so not much experience on that.

Still think its a bit of an overkill for a 206 TBH.

#9: Re: new battery rating? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:07 pm
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V9977 wrote:

Still think its a bit of an overkill for a 206 TBH.

Why?

Starts my TU3 powered 206 whatever the weather Wink

Cheap enough, 5 year warranty & plenty of extra power in reserve Cool

#10: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:16 pm
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MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:

Still think its a bit of an overkill for a 206 TBH.

Why?

Starts my TU3 powered 206 whatever the weather Wink

Cheap enough, 5 year warranty & plenty of extra power in reserve Cool

Because I've been running a Black Dynamic for years and never had
the slightest issue even at very low/extremely high temps.

Unless you are using a substantial ICE rig I don't see the point really.

#11: Re: new battery rating? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:24 pm
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:

Still think its a bit of an overkill for a 206 TBH.

Why?

Starts my TU3 powered 206 whatever the weather Wink

Cheap enough, 5 year warranty & plenty of extra power in reserve Cool

Because I've been running a Black Dynamic for years and never had
the slightest issue even at very low/extremely high temps.

Unless you are using a substantial ICE rig I don't see the point really.

pretty sure during winter uk should be quite a bit colder than Athens?

and you don't have a diesel anyway

short journey and cold weather=battery killer.

diesel already quite hard to start in winter even with good glow plug, longer cranking time+weak battery = Laughing

#12: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:42 pm
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Up north where I go it gets quite chilly believe me (-10 C no problem).
Summer in Athens = 40+ C easy.

Since its a diesel though and a 2.0 Hdi at that, you might well be right so I'll let it lie. Razz

#13: Re: new battery rating? Author: data, Location: Hereford PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:50 pm
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I use a big capacitor. It's 330,000 farads and I custom made the charging circuit. Cost a pretty penny, mind you!

#14: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:52 pm
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data wrote:
I use a big capacitor. It's 330,000 farads and I custom made the charging circuit. Cost a pretty penny, mind you!

Are you sure its not 330000μF?

Stick one of these in aswell if you dare and tell us what treble you get.

#15: Re: new battery rating? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:46 pm
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V9977 wrote:
Up north where I go it gets quite chilly believe me (-10 C no problem).
Summer in Athens = 40+ C easy.

Since its a diesel though and a 2.0 Hdi at that, you might well be right so I'll let it lie. Razz

what i have been remember is last winter many diesel runner on info are struggle to start their car Laughing Laughing a few threads per week! Laughing

#16: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:56 pm
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Seabook wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Up north where I go it gets quite chilly believe me (-10 C no problem).
Summer in Athens = 40+ C easy.

Since its a diesel though and a 2.0 Hdi at that, you might well be right so I'll let it lie. Razz

what i have been remember is last winter many diesel runner on info are struggle to start their car Laughing Laughing a few threads per week! Laughing

I also member last winter UK quite bad.

Nice pics but many slide and crash, lot's of threads pw.

#17: Re: new battery rating? Author: Seabook PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:03 pm
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V9977 wrote:
Seabook wrote:
V9977 wrote:
Up north where I go it gets quite chilly believe me (-10 C no problem).
Summer in Athens = 40+ C easy.

Since its a diesel though and a 2.0 Hdi at that, you might well be right so I'll let it lie. Razz

what i have been remember is last winter many diesel runner on info are struggle to start their car Laughing Laughing a few threads per week! Laughing

I also member last winter UK quite bad.

Nice pics but many slide and crash, lot's of threads pw.

people need to learn how to drive.

tbh the snow is nothing compare to other country like us or canada.

if they can drive why can't we?

#18: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:06 pm
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Believe me my good friend driving in the UK is 1000 X better than at least over here.

It is my favourite driver mentality by far. Go figure..

#19: Re: new battery rating? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:29 am
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:

Still think its a bit of an overkill for a 206 TBH.

Why?

Starts my TU3 powered 206 whatever the weather Wink

Cheap enough, 5 year warranty & plenty of extra power in reserve Cool

Because I've been running a Black Dynamic for years and never had
the slightest issue even at very low/extremely high temps.

Unless you are using a substantial ICE rig I don't see the point really.

My car has a lot of extra electrical equipment fitted plus the Silver Dynamic comes with a 5 year warranty so that shows Varta has faith in it's product range Wink

I'd much rather have plenty of power in reserve, you never know when you might need it.

#20: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:38 am
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MrBSI wrote:
I'd much rather have plenty of power in reserve, you never know when you might need it.

Capacity is the Ah spec which is minimal difference between them, something like 3Ah or 5% blue vs silver.

The main difference is cold-cranking peak amps.

#21: Re: new battery rating? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:42 am
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
I'd much rather have plenty of power in reserve, you never know when you might need it.

Capacity is the Ah spec which is minimal difference between them, something like 3Ah or 5%.

The main difference is cold-cranking peak amps.

Winters are cold enough in the UK, starting the car at -10 & having the heater, heated rear window, heated seats & headlamps all on it helps to have a decent battery Wink

#22: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:59 am
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[quote="MrBSI"][quote="V9977"]
MrBSI wrote:
Winters are cold enough in the UK, starting the car at -10 & having the heater, heated rear window, heated seats & headlamps all on it helps to have a decent battery Wink

Is that what you do? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

#23: Re: new battery rating? Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:00 am
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Winters are cold enough in the UK, starting the car at -10 & having the heater, heated rear window, heated seats & headlamps all on it helps to have a decent battery Wink

Is that what you do? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

I have all mine on when the cars frozen over, quickest way to deforst them.

Last edited by Abzynthe on Tue May 24, 2011 3:01 am; edited 2 times in total

#24: Re: new battery rating? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:01 am
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Winters are cold enough in the UK, starting the car at -10 & having the heater, heated rear window, heated seats & headlamps all on it helps to have a decent battery Wink

Is that what you do? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

Nah im lazy, I leave the automatic headlamps to take care of things Rolling Eyes

Last edited by MrBSI on Tue May 24, 2011 3:36 am; edited 1 time in total

#25: Re: new battery rating? Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:05 am
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MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Winters are cold enough in the UK, starting the car at -10 & having the heater, heated rear window, heated seats & headlamps all on it helps to have a decent battery Wink

Is that what you do? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

Nah im lazy, I leave the automatic headlamps to take care of things Rolling Eyes

Really? Do they power-up before the 'engine-running' line comes up in the BSi?

#26: Re: new battery rating? Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:36 am
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V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
V9977 wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Winters are cold enough in the UK, starting the car at -10 & having the heater, heated rear window, heated seats & headlamps all on it helps to have a decent battery Wink

Is that what you do? Rolling On The Floor Laughing

Nah im lazy, I leave the automatic headlamps to take care of things Rolling Eyes

Really? Do they power-up before the 'engine-running' line comes up in the BSi?

Auto headlamps dont switch on until the engine is ruuning.



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