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I've definatly angered the beast!
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#1: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:26 am
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I thought my battery had died and needed replacing, so i checked it with a multimeter and it's coming up with between 11.2 and 12.6 v.

This made me think it could be the starter motor, I have no idea where that is on my car, but i'd read if you put the car in high gear and rock it back n forth it can jolt the starter in to starting so i did that....

still doesnt start and now comes up with economy mode on the read out....
maybe time to bite the bulliet n let a garage sort it $$$$$ Sad

#2: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: Lewis, Location: Isle Of Wight PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:29 am
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alternator mate??? the voltage is a bit low if i remember rightly.. someone will correct me if im wrong.

#3: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:29 am
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liam180 wrote:

still doesnt start and now comes up with economy mode on the read out....

If you RTFM you will find thats perfectly normal, you need to start the engine to get it back out of economy mode Wink

#4: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: Norvvv, Location: Wiltshire PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:32 am
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RTFM? - read the f*****g manual? Ha.

#5: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:37 am
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Come on! if half the people on here RTFM there wouldnt be a forum! Razz
And with the starter sounding like it's gone i don't think it's going to start to easily.

#6: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: Harry, Location: Stafford PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:42 am
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If I have any of the electrics on for more than 20 mins without starting the car economy mode shows Laughing

#7: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: LilLew, Location: Plymouth PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:59 am
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have you tried bump starting the car

#8: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:48 am
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yeah, but the battery still seems to die after a while. im guna give it a good charge n see what happens

#9: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: copey, Location: rochdale PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:02 pm
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yup economy mode active is just when youve had the electrics on for a certain amount of time without firing the engine up

#10: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: V9977, Location: Athens, Greece PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:20 pm
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If the battery voltage is below 12.25V with ignition-off, it's had it.
With engine running it should be around 14V if the alternator is working correctly.

#11: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:55 am
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liam180 wrote:
yeah, but the battery still seems to die after a while. im guna give it a good charge n see what happens

Just go & buy a new battery, your gonna end up replacing it anyway as this one sounds f****d Rolling Eyes

#12: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: LilLew, Location: Plymouth PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:05 am
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gett the car started leave it to tick over and put a multimeter on to the battery termals and see what teh voltage is it should be over 13-14v

#13: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:08 am
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worst way.... go to a garage and get them to do a drop test on it.....

We drop test batteries we suspect are duff....... straight in the skip Laughing

#14: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:12 am
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macj wrote:
worst way.... go to a garage and get them to do a drop test on it.....

We drop test batteries we suspect are duff....... straight in the skip Laughing

Hope your collecting them up & recycling them responsively, there worth a bit of money if you have enough to weigh in Laughing

#15: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:23 am
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MrBSI wrote:
macj wrote:
worst way.... go to a garage and get them to do a drop test on it.....

We drop test batteries we suspect are duff....... straight in the skip Laughing

Hope your collecting them up & recycling them responsively, there worth a bit of money if you have enough to weigh in Laughing

We have an enviromental policy at Essex Motorsport to recycle as much waste material as possible..... this means weighing it in Wink

#16: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: Edward, Location: In the garage PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:41 am
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I gave my old battery to a pikey irish scrap man. His eyes lit up when he saw I had an old battery.

#17: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:46 am
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This weeks special..... all cars through workshop need a new battery or catalytic convertor...... I feel a holiday coming on

#18: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:53 am
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well i put the new battery in, still doesnt start, this is going to sound really stupid id imagine, but do i need to get it bump started on the new one to start it charging or should it go straight away?

#19: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:54 am
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liam180 wrote:
well i put the new battery in, still doesnt start, this is going to sound really stupid id imagine, but do i need to get it bump started on the new one to start it charging or should it go straight away?

Did you shut down / reboot the BSI correctly?

#20: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:00 am
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yup as far as i know.
I'm thinking alternator?
all the electrics come on, and the car just clicks when i turn it over

#21: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:08 am
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liam180 wrote:
yup as far as i know.
I'm thinking alternator?
all the electrics come on, and the car just clicks when i turn it over

Starter motor..... alternator wont prevent it from starting

#22: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:24 am
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i'll get this battery a jump n see if that works....

#23: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:32 am
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Whip the starter off, and pop into an auto electrician or garage and ask them to load test it for you. Sounds to me like it has been drawing a lot of current and has killed the old battery, if there is a short in it now it would explain the clicking.... solonoid working but motor not turning

#24: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: liam180, Location: Buckinghamshire PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:41 am
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Unfortunatly giving me more credit than i deserve, I can't even see the starter let alone take it off mate

#25: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: macj, Location: Essex PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:44 am
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point taken...... dont spend any more money till you get it tested though

#26: Re: I've definatly angered the beast! Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ? PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:53 am
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Follow the thick + cable towards the engine block, the starter motor will be connected to it somewhere along its length.

The alternator should be at the other end of the cable.

The starter motor turns the flywheel, its not gonna be that hard to spot / find.



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