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#1: Engine ticking, Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:16 am
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Hi Guys,
My engine has a constant ticking coming from the rocker. One of my mates has said that its the things that the cams push down are a bit warn?

Would that sound about right?

If so, is it an expensive job? I want to get my car back to sounding sweet, and hopefully get the power back it came with.

All I need to do is give it a service and sort this ticking, and it should be right as rain Smile

Any help would be much appreciated.

#2: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:21 am
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+1 Mine is the same. Stupid old piece of crap! Laughing

#3: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:24 am
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yes they are. hyraulic lifter aren't cheap. and you will have to renew the whole set each time. 8 for 8v and 16 for 16v

but just to make sure you oil is good and is enough

Last edited by Seabook on Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:27 am; edited 1 time in total

#4: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:24 am
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More to the point though, I used Wynns Valve lifter concentrate and it quietened it down a bit.

#5: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:29 am
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Howey wrote:
More to the point though, I used Wynns Valve lifter concentrate and it quietened it down a bit.

mine was quite quiet after oil change each time.

#6: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:34 am
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Howey wrote:
More to the point though, I used Wynns Valve lifter concentrate and it quietened it down a bit.

My oil is about half on the dipstick, so it does need a bit more, but that'll get done with the service.

If the service doesnt help that much, does the valve lifter go in with the oil?

#7: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Rob2859, Location: Halifax PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:49 am
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Out of technical curiosity, How does that valve lifter stuff work?

#8: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:50 am
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Valve lifter concentrate just gets added in with the oil Smile

Im not sure Rob, I think its witchcraft Wink

#9: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:12 am
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www.wynns.uk.com/pDocs...N_MSDS.pdf

check this out.

==
INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
NAME CAS NO EINICS/ELINCS MIN/MAX SYMBOL R-PHRASES
2-(2-butoxyethoxy)ethanol; diethylene glycol monobutyl ether 112-34-5 203-961-6 1 <= C < 2.5 % Xi R36
4-methyl-2-pentanol 108-11-2 203-551-7 1 <= C< 2.5 % Xi R10, R37
Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated heavy naphthenic; Baseoil - unspecified 64742-52-5 265-155-0 > 75 %
Zink alkyl dithiofosfaat 68649-42-3 272-028-3 1 <= C < 2.5 % Xi,N R38, R41, R51/53
cyclohexanone 108-94-1 203-631-1 1 <= C < 2.5 % Xn R10, R20
==

cut it short, snake oil Laughing

or just put some ZDDP into your oil and thensee your cat die.

#10: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Howey, Location: Kings Lynn PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:18 am
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Sorry Seabook, What does that list of ingredients mean?

#11: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:24 am
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Howey wrote:
Sorry Seabook, What does that list of ingredients mean?

2-(2-butoxyethoxy)ethanol; diethylene glycol monobutyl ether, 4-methyl-2-pentanol and cyclohexanone use to take away water from the fuel and engine oil. quite a common component in most fuel additives.

Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated heavy naphthenic; Baseoil
is just basic stock mineral oil.

Zink alkyl dithiofosfaat is ZDDP, used to have about 5% to 10% in the engine oil before cat. was introduced; it is used as an anti wear agent. apparently it is toxic to the cat. so modern engine oil have <2% of that present. apparant they replace that with other thing but not as effective?

most competition oil will have at least 5% of that present anyway.

#12: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:25 am
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Seabook wrote:
http://www.wynns.uk.com/pDocs/76864_EN_MSDS.pdf

check this out.

==
INFORMATION ON INGREDIENTS
NAME CAS NO EINICS/ELINCS MIN/MAX SYMBOL R-PHRASES
2-(2-butoxyethoxy)ethanol; diethylene glycol monobutyl ether 112-34-5 203-961-6 1 <= C < 2.5 % Xi R36
4-methyl-2-pentanol 108-11-2 203-551-7 1 <= C< 2.5 % Xi R10, R37
Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated heavy naphthenic; Baseoil - unspecified 64742-52-5 265-155-0 > 75 %
Zink alkyl dithiofosfaat 68649-42-3 272-028-3 1 <= C < 2.5 % Xi,N R38, R41, R51/53
cyclohexanone 108-94-1 203-631-1 1 <= C < 2.5 % Xn R10, R20
==

cut it short, snake oil Laughing

or just put some ZDDP into your oil and thensee your cat die.

wtf is that form made for? Laughing Most of its random jargon.

#13: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:26 am
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Seabook wrote:
Howey wrote:
Sorry Seabook, What does that list of ingredients mean?

2-(2-butoxyethoxy)ethanol; diethylene glycol monobutyl ether, 4-methyl-2-pentanol and cyclohexanone use to take away water from the fuel and engine oil. quite a common component in most fuel additives.

Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated heavy naphthenic; Baseoil
is just basic stock mineral oil.

Zink alkyl dithiofosfaat is ZDDP, used to have about 5% to 10% in the engine oil before cat. was introduced; it is used as an anti wear agent. apparently it is toxic to the cat. so modern engine oil have <2% of that present. apparant they replace that with other thing but not as effective?

most competition oil will have at least 5% of that present anyway.

So your saying dont use it as everything I need is in the oil?

#14: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Seabook PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:31 am
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i never used any oil additive or fuel additive.

however, many people like to add redex or what so ever in their oil or petrol frequently, you just can't ignore the placebo effect. Laughing

#15: Re: Engine ticking, Author: Abzynthe PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:33 am
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Laughing This is the first car where Ive had to worry about things and i havent got a clue!

I wont be putting any additives in at least until the service is done.

I know you said the valve lifters can be expensive, but dont suppose you know a rough figure?



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