#1: Most unreliable car Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:07 am ---- is my 206 the most unreliable car on here, ive had it 2 years, ive replaced(brace yourself
1.wishbones
2.droplinks
3.aux belt
4. aux tensioner
5.engine(the original died on me)
6.rear axle
7.rear arb
8.electrical problems central locking, ecu codes
9.air/fuel sensor
10.radiator
11.doors both creak, open too far and actuators dont work so no central locking no more had to unhook them so can lock all doors,
these dont include the 2 dints one from a door in car park and one on rear bumper from some idiot who probably reversed into it.
#2: Re: Most unreliable car Author: brimbo, Location: South ShieldsPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:09 am ---- Well i've had my 206 for about 4 months now, in that time i've replaced the rear axle, aux tensioner, springs, and an engine mounting, twice !
#3: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Dabamash, Location: The car in frontPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:16 am ---- Mine works fine. Sucks to be you
#4: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:16 am ---- Ye french cars are just s**t thats why were selling our and going jap. Once you go jap you don't go back
#5: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:18 am ----
orangeGTI wrote:
Ye french cars are just s**t thats why were selling our and going jap. Once you go jap you don't go back
Then get bum raped by the cost of parts when they do go wrong Last edited by Howey on Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:28 am; edited 1 time in total
#6: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:20 am ---- iv had 3 jap cars befor the wife got the pug and never once had a problem with any of them. Parts and that much more anyway.
#7: Re: Most unreliable car Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:30 am ---- Jap = crap, they all rust sooner or later
#8: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:31 am ---- sccoby is good
#9: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Lee, Location: EnglandPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:34 am ---- A GT is gunna be like 12 years old, what do you expect? Most of them are wear and tear
#10: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:34 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Jap = crap, they all rust sooner or later
not if you look after them
And all cars rust at some point
#11: Re: Most unreliable car Author: luke030588, Location: peterboroughPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:35 am ---- I've had mine 5 years an only ever had to replace an injector.
#12: Re: Most unreliable car Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:38 am ----
orangeGTI wrote:
MrBSI wrote:
Jap = crap, they all rust sooner or later
not if you look after them
And all cars rust at some point
Jap's like Ford havent heard of galvanising yet
#13: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:42 am ---- like i say if you look after them and underseal them they last forever.
#14: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seabook, Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:43 am ----
orangeGTI wrote:
like i say if you look after them and underseal them they last forever.
that can also apply to every car make
#15: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:45 am ---- ye but the point im making is if you underseal a jap car you never hava a problem with it. if you underseal a pug they still break down
#16: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:47 am ---- But the parts are cheaper
#17: Re: Most unreliable car Author: MrBSI, Location: What's it to you? ? ?Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:53 am ---- In nearly 13 years of Pug onwer ship the only 1 that has ever broken down on me was the 406 when the timing belt snapped, something which Peugeot later recalled it on.
2 x 405 over 6 years & the 206 over another 6 years so far have never let me down yet
#18: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:01 am ----
Howey wrote:
But the parts are cheaper
Yes but the price reflects how good they are.
In the 3 years of owning my jap cars never had to spend any money on them. only for servicing. Even after driving round alday with out any coolant in as the bottom hose came off.
since owning the pug we have spent over £1000 replacing bits on it. its like a new car now.
#19: Re: Most unreliable car Author: MrZiggerz, Location: Milton KeynesPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:06 am ---- Wow.. Just wow.
#20: Re: Most unreliable car Author: lee206xsi, Location: CheltenhamPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:33 am ---- You guys must have shitters! my 206 lasted 4 years and headgasket start weeping few days before i traded it in
#21: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Timon2210, Location: PalestinePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:24 pm ---- Well it's called a "Used Car" ,NOT a "Brand New" car,so as everyone knows,used cars need maintenance,and few parts to be replaced,some of the parts wear due to the high mileage,and some of it because of the wrong use,because no one in this world drive the car like the other,so don't feel so bad for changing all what you said in the list,some of it need to be replaced even if it was working well.
#22: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Swardy, Location: CambridgePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:31 pm ---- mate, your car is like Trigger's broom from Only Fools and Horses!!!
one for the older info members that....
#23: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Lecktorious, Location: ScotlandPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:59 pm ---- So you bought a shitter or replace worn parts with cheap and nasty pattern parts?
#24: Re: Most unreliable car Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:05 pm ----
luke030588 wrote:
I've had mine 5 years an only ever had to replace an injector.
Time for a new cam belt and waterpump, has to replaced every 5 years or every 80,000 what ever comes first. Or be prepared to bend some valves when belt breaks Last edited by DeadEyePaul on Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
#25: Re: Most unreliable car Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:06 pm ----
Swardy wrote:
mate, your car is like Trigger's broom from Only Fools and Horses!!!
one for the older info members that....
Not old but gf has whole collection and that joke is sooo funny trigger is the best
#26: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Abzynthe, Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:07 pm ----
DeadEyePaul wrote:
luke030588 wrote:
I've had mine 5 years an only ever had to replace an injector.
Time for a new cam belt and waterpump, has to replaced every 5 yes or every 80,000 what ever comes first. Or be prepared to bend some valves when belt breaks
Hmm, may have to look into getting mine does, engines 10 yrs old with 80k ish miles and no proof of cam belt change :S
#27: Re: Most unreliable car Author: celts1888, Location: scotlandPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:22 pm ---- Got my 206 just over a week ago 9 previous owners and so far found that i need -
Drivers side wheel bearing
New radiator
Gear stick lifts up so god knows what that is, good bit of gunk under gear box could be related?
Thats just in a week lol can't really drive it untill repairs are done on friday so just hope that is all
#28: Re: Most unreliable car Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:26 pm ----
celts1888 wrote:
Got my 206 just over a week ago 9 previous owners and so far found that i need -
Drivers side wheel bearing
New radiator
Gear stick lifts up so god knows what that is, good bit of gunk under gear box could be related?
Thats just in a week lol can't really drive it untill repairs are done on friday so just hope that is all
g/s is connected to a rod and the rod goes into the g/b I think the rod is loose? People who have fitted a quickshift kit (shorter rod) can confirm this
#29: Re: Most unreliable car Author: celts1888, Location: scotlandPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:28 pm ----
DeadEyePaul wrote:
celts1888 wrote:
Got my 206 just over a week ago 9 previous owners and so far found that i need -
Drivers side wheel bearing
New radiator
Gear stick lifts up so god knows what that is, good bit of gunk under gear box could be related?
Thats just in a week lol can't really drive it untill repairs are done on friday so just hope that is all
g/s is connected to a rod and the rod goes into the g/b I think the rod is loose? People who have fitted a quickshift kit (shorter rod) can confirm this
Would that be related to the gunk underneath and whats the damage cost wise?
#30: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:28 pm ----
orangeGTI wrote:
And all cars rust at some point
Not fibre glass body cars with aluminium chassis's
#31: Re: Most unreliable car Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:33 pm ----
celts1888 wrote:
DeadEyePaul wrote:
celts1888 wrote:
Got my 206 just over a week ago 9 previous owners and so far found that i need -
Drivers side wheel bearing
New radiator
Gear stick lifts up so god knows what that is, good bit of gunk under gear box could be related?
Thats just in a week lol can't really drive it untill repairs are done on friday so just hope that is all
g/s is connected to a rod and the rod goes into the g/b I think the rod is loose? People who have fitted a quickshift kit (shorter rod) can confirm this
Would that be related to the gunk underneath and whats the damage cost wise?
Probably just a bolt needs tightening or a new rod is required if threads are worn, I don't think it will be too expensive
#32: Re: Most unreliable car Author: orangeGTI, Location: whitbyPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:39 pm ----
Seb wrote:
orangeGTI wrote:
And all cars rust at some point
Not fibre glass body cars with aluminium chassis's
they still have metal chassis smart a**e
#33: Re: Most unreliable car Author: DeadEyePaul, Location: Rugby,WarwickshirePosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:49 pm ----
orangeGTI wrote:
Seb wrote:
orangeGTI wrote:
And all cars rust at some point
Not fibre glass body cars with aluminium chassis's
they still have metal chassis smart a**e
Seb is meaning NOT all cars are aluminium that's like saying all boats are made of timber
#34: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:56 pm ----
orangeGTI wrote:
Seb wrote:
orangeGTI wrote:
And all cars rust at some point
Not fibre glass body cars with aluminium chassis's
they still have metal chassis smart a**e
I just spat my drink out.
Do you know what rust is?
It's IRON (III) oxide(s).
Last time I checked aluminium was a separate element.
Smart a**e.
#35: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Edward, Location: In the garagePosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:12 am ---- Most fibreglass cars have a steel backbone chassis...which rusts like the titanic.
#36: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seabook, Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:24 am ----
Seb wrote:
orangeGTI wrote:
Seb wrote:
orangeGTI wrote:
And all cars rust at some point
Not fibre glass body cars with aluminium chassis's
they still have metal chassis smart a**e
I just spat my drink out.
Do you know what rust is?
It's IRON (III) oxide(s).
Last time I checked aluminium was a separate element.
Smart a**e.
aluminium still formed oxide. but they behaved differently.
iron (III) oxide are lossen and will fall off easily. most over, rust surface are rough so it would condense more water into it. and rust is not just iron (III) oxide, it is way more complicated than that.
while aluminim get oxidized to just aluminium (III) oixde. it will not fall off so it would stop the bottom metal part from oxidation.
#37: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:47 am ---- Rust is a general term for iron oxides.
Yes aluminium does corrode (not rust) but aluminium corrosion actually forms a protective layer and is not anywhere near how iron reacts with oxygen in terms of structural stability.
#38: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:48 am ---- Oh and it takes like ten times as long for Al to corrode compared to Fe.
#39: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Lizard2010, Location: Adelaide South AustraliaPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:39 am ----
MrBSI wrote:
Jap = crap, they all rust sooner or later
Well i just got rid of my old Toyota Station Wagon had it 27 years.
Spent a bit off money over the years.
How long will a PUG last not that long and it will cost an arm and a leg to keep going.
The only reason i bought a Pug was to try something different.
Maybe i should have bought another Toyota.
#40: Re: Most unreliable car Author: no_offences, Location: LeedsPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:33 pm ----
G. wrote:
So you bought a shitter or replace worn parts with cheap and nasty pattern parts?
nope i dont do cheap id rather take it off the road while i save.
its just a bit extreme whats gone wrong, granted its 12 year old but the cars done less than 90k, not exactly high mileage especially for its ageand the interior is excellent so te car hasn't really been abused id say
#41: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:38 pm ----
Edward wrote:
Most fibreglass cars have a steel backbone chassis...which rusts like the titanic.
Glad mine doesn't then!
#42: Re: Most unreliable car Author: lofty, Location: Near ManchesterPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:49 pm ---- I'm enjoying the science bit....
#43: Re: Most unreliable car Author: deebee, Location: BirminghamPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:38 pm ---- ive had mine for 8 months and havent had to replace anything at all, except i choose to change glow plugs, and i choose to change steelies for alloys so sucks to be you lot whose having problems tbh xxxx
#44: Re: Most unreliable car Author: sx206, Location: essexPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:23 pm ---- first post so go easy,my experience of buying japanese car for engine reliability ended in nothing but expensive repair bills,stretched cam chain the worst case,as said before parts are expensive.but the biggest shock for me finding out the engine on my nissan x trail was french,renault.wifes 9 year old 206 still drives great.enyway got rid of the nissan or should that be renault.just my experience.
#45: Re: Most unreliable car Author: Addaz, Location: SuffolkPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:35 pm ---- People think thats a big list.....
So far i have replaced:
- Swapped engine twice
- Alternator 3 times
- AUX belt 3 times
- Clutch twice
- Gearbox 3 times
- Rear axle bearings
- Rear axle bushes
- Drop links 3 possibley 4 times
- Bottom arm 7 SETS
- Shocks/springs 3 times
- Track rod ends
- Fuel lines
- Inlet manifold
- Exhaust manifold
- Drive shafts twice
- Drivers side radius arm
- Bottom tortion bar
- Rear anti roll bar and plates
- Rear anti roll bar seals
The newest thing im eating through is exhaust centre sections
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