#1: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:42 am ---- Hi everyone
On Saturday evening I decided that I wanted to remap my 206 2.0 hdi and sent my map file off to Pro-Steve. The next morning I recieved an email with 2 maps, 1 for 115bhp and 1 for 125 bhp.
I decided to go for the 125 map straight away. Uploaded it to my ECU in under 5 mins and it was finished. Took it for a spin and it's RAPID!!! I can't belived how much extra power the car has got now and just doesn't stop spinning lol.
Best £82 I ever spent (£60 for actual map from Steve and £22 for code reader off ebay). I would recommend anyone with a 206 or 306 2.0 hdi to get this done it is the best money you will ever spend, very easy to install and will not regret it.
My mates just had his 306 hdi done as well and that's the same as mine, it just does't stop pulling to the top of every gear and in every gear (still pulls really well at 70+ in fifth.
If your reading this steve then thanks for the great map.
#2: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:45 am ---- think there is quite a few good review about his service
#3: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: kieron, Location: in the housePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:09 am ---- did you use a kpw2000? EBAY link?
#4: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:13 am ---- Not 100% sure as my mate ordered it (we chipped to for the cable to lower the cost but I put cost £22 for cable as thats how much it is to buy) but pretty sure it was the Galletto 1260
All the cables are similar to use but this one looks like the one I used and is the one many people use who get remaps from pro-steve.
Honestly I would recommend anyone to get a map from steve and as said above everyone says he's good I haven't seen one bad review yet.
#5: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:15 am ---- Btw it comes with loads of maps already but would't recommend anyone use these as they are all generic and may f**k your cars ECU up.
Steve tailors your cars original map to make it more powerful and as it is set up specifically for your car it is alot safer to use.
#6: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:19 am ---- Generics are fine, they won't feck anything up if they are standard generic maps.
I don't think I'd ever bother getting a custom unless there were other mods on the car.
#7: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:22 am ---- Just a tip when using the Galletto 1260
When the new map has finished uploading, a bit of Italian writing will pop up and you will have no clue what it means, but luckliy I found out.
It is just telling you to turn the ignition off for 10 seconds (DO NOT UNPLUG YET)
Do so then press ok, turn the ignition back on and then it is complete.
#8: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:27 am ---- Generics are sometimes ok but will not give you as much power as a custom map, and for the sake of £60 you misewell get a custom one that you know is right for YOUR car and not just any of the same model.
Also don't you think its abit cheap to get a code reader for £22 and get for 'free' remaps on it worth more than that?
#9: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:58 am ----
vaughan1993 wrote:
Generics are sometimes ok but will not give you as much power as a custom map, and for the sake of £60 you misewell get a custom one that you know is right for YOUR car and not just any of the same model.
Also don't you think its abit cheap to get a code reader for £22 and get for 'free' remaps on it worth more than that?
But aren't custom maps £300+??
#10: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: JE_180, Location: WiltshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:02 am ----
Big_Rich180 wrote:
vaughan1993 wrote:
Generics are sometimes ok but will not give you as much power as a custom map, and for the sake of £60 you misewell get a custom one that you know is right for YOUR car and not just any of the same model.
Also don't you think its abit cheap to get a code reader for £22 and get for 'free' remaps on it worth more than that?
But aren't custom maps £300+??
Yeah around that
#11: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Howey, Location: Kings LynnPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:09 am ---- Big enough sig JE?
#12: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:17 am ---- The maps from pro-steve are custom as he doesn't just say 'Right he wants a 206 remap, this file will work there you go'.
You email your original map to him and he modify's it from scratch rather than just sending you a generic one. Custom maps from garages cost £300+ yes but you are paying for their equipment and labour. And as everyone knows garages charge alot more than necessary (i.e £100 + for a service which is basically an oil change and a few checks which could be done yourself for next to nothing).
Instead of paying a garage £300+ why not get the equipment yourself for £22, get a custom remapped file fo £60 and do it yourself and save the labour cost. It's a 5 min job and even a monkey could do it just plug it in and press a button to upload it.
Simple
#13: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Big_Rich180, Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:21 am ----
vaughan1993 wrote:
The maps from pro-steve are custom as he doesn't just say 'Right he wants a 206 remap, this file will work there you go'.
You email your original map to him and he modify's it from scratch rather than just sending you a generic one. Custom maps from garages cost £300+ yes but you are paying for their equipment and labour. And as everyone knows garages charge alot more than necessary (i.e £100 + for a service which is basically an oil change and a few checks which could be done yourself for next to nothing).
Instead of paying a garage £300+ why not get the equipment yourself for £22, get a custom remapped file fo £60 and do it yourself and save the labour cost. It's a 5 min job and even a monkey could do it just plug it in and press a button to upload it.
Simple
I see what you mean now, I think the word cutome is a bit vague, most people who have a cutom map would assume you either get RR time or the person would do a live map in the car.
I also dont see how its a proper custom job if he has never even seen/been in the car, im not saying that his maps are bad i just wouldnt say its custom.
#14: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Seb, Location: Under your bedPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:33 am ---- There's a difference between generic, custom and tailored maps.
A generic is just a standard map designed for a certain cap that you can just slap on.
A custom is taking your map and altering it (without seeing the actual AFR/boost/torque plots for the car).
A tailored map is putting it on a dyno and using feedback from the car itself to decide what to do with the map.
Imo generic and 'custom' maps are exactly the same in terms of what they will do to the car, without having any feedback it is all guesswork. No if or buts, it's true, all guessing.
Not saying they are bad, for a non modified car they are perfectly fine.
I wouldn't touch either if I had any accompanying mods though.
Tailored would therefore be my route of choice.
#15: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:37 am ---- When you send your maps off to him he asks you to send him details of the car such as general mechanical condition, milage and if you have any other modifications. He then takes all of this into account when writing the map for you car. So for example he sent me two maps a 115bhp one and a 125bhp one. My car has only done 90,000 miles and so the 125 one works fine.
However if the car had done 200,000 miles he would recommend using the 115bhp one to compensate for the high milage. On the other hand if you had an intercooler on the car he would send you a stage 2 map (if you ask) that is close to 140-150bhp (estimate) as the car would be able to handle the power.
But at the end of the day the point I am trying to make is for the money he is charging these maps work brilliantly and if you are still in two minds check out his website it might explain a few questions people have about him. Also has alot more reviews and a dyno result before and after.
#16: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:47 am ---- yes, the map is custom map for his HDi, however they are generic map for your HDi,
as he got no idea how your cars condition and he can't test your car before and after the map, and he can't altered the map if they is anything wrong.
why are we starting that again?? this has been discussed many many times before lol
#17: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:57 am ---- If anything is wrong or if I wanted anything tweeking then to let him know and he would do it for me. In the meantime it would only take two mins to upload the car's original until the changes have been made (and he usually replies within a few hours). This is the advantage of doing it yourself, if there IS something wrong and I stress IF then it only takes two mins to upload the original but if you took it somewhere you would have to book it in again to make the changes, and will probably charge you.
Btw I don't believe that they are generic maps for Hdi's. This is because my mate has a 306 2.0 hdi which is the same engine as mine. Both mine and his have EDC15 ECU'S and are on a 2000 X plate. However even though the ECU's are the same the codes are different and hi map would not work on mine and vice versa.
Plus the maps are slightly different. For example his 306 makes a bigger whistle on his turbo than mine at high revs. However mine pulls more than his does and is a little faster I would say. But both sound good and go like sh*t off a shovel
#18: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Seabook, Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:09 am ----
vaughan1993 wrote:
If anything is wrong or if I wanted anything tweeking then to let him know and he would do it for me. In the meantime it would only take two mins to upload the car's original until the changes have been made (and he usually replies within a few hours). This is the advantage of doing it yourself, if there IS something wrong and I stress IF then it only takes two mins to upload the original but if you took it somewhere you would have to book it in again to make the changes, and will probably charge you.
Btw I don't believe that they are generic maps for Hdi's. This is because my mate has a 306 2.0 hdi which is the same engine as mine. Both mine and his have EDC15 ECU'S and are on a 2000 X plate. However even though the ECU's are the same the codes are different and hi map would not work on mine and vice versa.
Plus the maps are slightly different. For example his 306 makes a bigger whistle on his turbo than mine at high revs. However mine pulls more than his does and is a little faster I would say. But both sound good and go like sh*t off a shovel
this is the definition problem, and has no relation to the quality of the map.
#19: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: 2Oh!6, Location: GloucesterPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:47 am ---- Does he only do pug maps? What about Seat VW's etc..
#20: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:07 am ---- You'll have to ask him but sure he only does pugs
#21: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: tomd0801754, Location: MoscowPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:02 am ---- Two cars are never the same, even if they have the exact same milage and mods. No saying his maps are bad but they are not for cars which have a fair few engine mods.
Glad your happy, but like everything... Don't ram it down peoples throats and they will accept.
#22: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: vaughan1993, Location: Sheffield, South YorkshirePosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:56 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Glad your happy, but like everything... Don't ram it down peoples throats and they will accept.
I wasn't trying to ram it down peoples throats I was just explaining how he does it and saying that the maps are not generic. I'm not forcing people into getting them for their cars merely telling them about the pros.
#23: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: Aar_Im_A_Pirate, Location: Northern IrelandPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:30 am ----
tomd0801754 wrote:
Don't ram it down peoples throats and they will accept.
I've tried this but the ladies don't like it at all!
#24: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: 206HDi90, Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:35 am ---- Hi, I know I'm a bit late to message on this (2 year's later!) but I now own a 206 2.0 hdi 90bhp and I've been thinking about a remap. I came across hdi tuning and pro Steve with the emailed 'custom' map and it sounds a bargain!! (£75 instead of £300!) From what I've read on many sites/forums he is highly recommended! Which is good because I was a bit sceptical at the start. I.just had a few questions before I email him!
1. Has anyone noticed any issues due to the remap since it was done?
2. Is there anything different between the Galletto 1260 or KWP2000? How did you choose which one?
3. Once the new map has been uploaded to the car, does it leave a copy in the tool?
Thanks guys!
#25: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: bbunce1991, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:19 am ---- I used Steve, noticed no issues at all. I used Galetto because he said to use it lol, and as for keeping a copy, I just kept my original file from when I took it off my ECU to send to him.
Brad
#26: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: 206HDi90, Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:31 pm ---- Ah okay! How long have you had your car mapped for? Years? Months?
Oh did he? Ah okay, from what I've read most people have used the galetto tool. I was wondering if there wad a difference with KWP2000. Where did you keep the original file? I assume on the PC?
#27: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: bbunce1991, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:18 am ---- Its been done for around 4 months now and I done a fair few miles since. And yeah, I kept hte original file on my PC.
Brad
#28: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: 206HDi90, Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:17 am ---- Ah okay cool!! I'll email him next month when I get paid!!
#29: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: 206HDi90, Posted: Fri May 10, 2013 12:28 pm ---- What is your fuel like after the remap? MPG better with normal driving? Or better yet, how many miles can you get to a tank?
#30: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: bbunce1991, Location: NorthamptonshirePosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:08 am ---- To be honest with ya, I dont know because since I had it done, I seem to be a bit more heavy footed. As for the miles to tank, have never filled it.
Brad
#31: Re: Review - 2.0Hdi Remap From Pro-Steve Author: 206HDi90, Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 6:04 pm ---- Oh right okay! Well I'll do it next month and see how it is
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